Changing CV....question on first step :(
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Changing CV....question on first step :(
Hi everyone....
My inner boot ripped so I'm replacing the unit.
I have the truck jacked up, wheel off, and the outer part of the hub off (handle that goes from free to lock). I have a service manual and tried to follow this:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f128...toyotas-81059/
Step 1...yes, step 1...says this:
1. Remove the hub/ADD flange, the bolt in the end of the axle, and the C-clip
Where is the C-Clip at? Do I have to pull the inner part of the hub off to see it? I pulled the nuts off and those cone washers (I think that is the name) are still there. I think they have to come off before pulling the rest. Can anyone help with what I'm missing?
Thanks.
Dave
My inner boot ripped so I'm replacing the unit.
I have the truck jacked up, wheel off, and the outer part of the hub off (handle that goes from free to lock). I have a service manual and tried to follow this:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f128...toyotas-81059/
Step 1...yes, step 1...says this:
1. Remove the hub/ADD flange, the bolt in the end of the axle, and the C-clip
Where is the C-Clip at? Do I have to pull the inner part of the hub off to see it? I pulled the nuts off and those cone washers (I think that is the name) are still there. I think they have to come off before pulling the rest. Can anyone help with what I'm missing?
Thanks.
Dave
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yeah pull off the whole hub and there should be a clip on the end of the cv shaft!
if you have 2 jacks and use one under the opposite rear axle and one on the outer most part of the lower a arm you only need to take the hub and 6 bolts on the diff side of cv off and it will slide out and in.. i did it a few weeks ago passenger side
if you have 2 jacks and use one under the opposite rear axle and one on the outer most part of the lower a arm you only need to take the hub and 6 bolts on the diff side of cv off and it will slide out and in.. i did it a few weeks ago passenger side
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Thanks for the info and pics! Both really helped. I had a hek of a time with the cone washers until I beat the crap out of the studs....it did not matter since I will be replacing them anyway. I'm guessing you can only get those at the stealership so I'll be calling later. I can see the C-Clip now, but I called it a night before going any further.
I'm really thinking about changing the rotors/pads/calipers since I'm in there. They seem to work fine, but I have no idea on their age...they look pretty dated...what's another couple 100 bucks when everything else on the truck is new?
I'm really thinking about changing the rotors/pads/calipers since I'm in there. They seem to work fine, but I have no idea on their age...they look pretty dated...what's another couple 100 bucks when everything else on the truck is new?
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If changing out one cv, you might want to do the other side as well. Those cone washers are a bit@#. I ended up having to use an air chisel on mine. beat them all to hell.
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I am going to do the other side in the very near future...probably as soon as I get the pass. side all buttoned up.
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My cone washer pop out with a light tap on the end with a brass punch, a little wiggle of the hub or a slender screwdriver or center punch inserted into the slit in the washer. I've never had a problem with mine at all.
As far as the studs on the hub, they don't press in IIRC; they are reverse threaded into the hub.
As far as the studs on the cv, I popped mine with a C-clamp & just ground the splines off. Now I have removable bolts & didn't have to buy anything.
Changing the cv is easy(er) with the studs out; all I have to do is turn the wheel (right for DS & left for PS) to full lock & then stick a small jack under the lower BJ on the side I'm working & jack it up until the truck begins to lift off the jackstand & *badda-bing-badda-boom - it's out.
As far as the studs on the hub, they don't press in IIRC; they are reverse threaded into the hub.
As far as the studs on the cv, I popped mine with a C-clamp & just ground the splines off. Now I have removable bolts & didn't have to buy anything.
Changing the cv is easy(er) with the studs out; all I have to do is turn the wheel (right for DS & left for PS) to full lock & then stick a small jack under the lower BJ on the side I'm working & jack it up until the truck begins to lift off the jackstand & *badda-bing-badda-boom - it's out.
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My cone washer pop out with a light tap on the end with a brass punch, a little wiggle of the hub or a slender screwdriver or center punch inserted into the slit in the washer. I've never had a problem with mine at all.
As far as the studs on the hub, they don't press in IIRC; they are reverse threaded into the hub.
As far as the studs on the cv, I popped mine with a C-clamp & just ground the splines off. Now I have removable bolts & didn't have to buy anything.
Changing the cv is easy(er) with the studs out; all I have to do is turn the wheel (right for DS & left for PS) to full lock & then stick a small jack under the lower BJ on the side I'm working & jack it up until the truck begins to lift off the jackstand & *badda-bing-badda-boom - it's out.
As far as the studs on the hub, they don't press in IIRC; they are reverse threaded into the hub.
As far as the studs on the cv, I popped mine with a C-clamp & just ground the splines off. Now I have removable bolts & didn't have to buy anything.
Changing the cv is easy(er) with the studs out; all I have to do is turn the wheel (right for DS & left for PS) to full lock & then stick a small jack under the lower BJ on the side I'm working & jack it up until the truck begins to lift off the jackstand & *badda-bing-badda-boom - it's out.
Since they are reverse threaded to the hub, you don't think it will be too big of a deal getting them out then?
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Assuming they are reverse threaded into the hub (I don't know 100% since I've never broken one, just going off of what I remember seeing) you should be able to get them out many different ways....by using a jam nut would be my first try, a small pipe wrench or even welding a nut to the end could even work.
I wouldn't beat the hubs, you'll eventually make a flat spot on the top of the hub. Next time try using a brass punch & a BFH. Hit the brass instead of the stud, the brass is softer. Start easy & steadily increase the strength of the blows until it pops.
I wouldn't beat the hubs, you'll eventually make a flat spot on the top of the hub. Next time try using a brass punch & a BFH. Hit the brass instead of the stud, the brass is softer. Start easy & steadily increase the strength of the blows until it pops.
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Thanks. I'll update on how it goes. I'm probably going to remove the C-Clip tonight and get stuck again....I bought some new to me seats and installed those last night.
I did get this info on replacing the studs and washers from toyotapart.com:
42323-60010 cone washers $2.62
90116-08325 studs $0.64 ea.
I did get this info on replacing the studs and washers from toyotapart.com:
42323-60010 cone washers $2.62
90116-08325 studs $0.64 ea.
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Assuming they are reverse threaded into the hub (I don't know 100% since I've never broken one, just going off of what I remember seeing) you should be able to get them out many different ways....by using a jam nut would be my first try, a small pipe wrench or even welding a nut to the end could even work.
I wouldn't beat the hubs, you'll eventually make a flat spot on the top of the hub. Next time try using a brass punch & a BFH. Hit the brass instead of the stud, the brass is softer. Start easy & steadily increase the strength of the blows until it pops.
I wouldn't beat the hubs, you'll eventually make a flat spot on the top of the hub. Next time try using a brass punch & a BFH. Hit the brass instead of the stud, the brass is softer. Start easy & steadily increase the strength of the blows until it pops.
I used my hand sledge again. It took a couple decent swings to get the worst studs out.
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The "studs" are a hybrid between bolts and studs (to the layman). They have a bold head and, instead of threading into the diff-side flange, there are little splines that fit by compression into the flange on the diff.
I used my hand sledge again. It took a couple decent swings to get the worst studs out.
I used my hand sledge again. It took a couple decent swings to get the worst studs out.
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Yeah Matt's confused. As far as the hub studs - I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they are threaded into the hub vs. press fit.
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I spent some time on it last night and tonight.
Last night I got the nuts on the studs broke free. Reading some of the other references I had to put the hub back on, lock in 4WD, put in 4WD, and then wedge a 2x2 between the brake pedal and the hump of the floor where the seat mounts....I did not have someone with me to step on the brake pedal.
I got the CV out tonight and I tossed it on the ground. One of the CV studs just fell out on its own. I guess the worst part was how greasy everything was with the cracked boot and more kept oozing out. My plan over the next few days:
-Hit the stealership and get the new studs...came in today.
-Clean all the grease up
-Pop the remaining 5 CV studs
-Start digging into how the hub studs will be removed
Thanks again for all your help!
Dave
Last night I got the nuts on the studs broke free. Reading some of the other references I had to put the hub back on, lock in 4WD, put in 4WD, and then wedge a 2x2 between the brake pedal and the hump of the floor where the seat mounts....I did not have someone with me to step on the brake pedal.
I got the CV out tonight and I tossed it on the ground. One of the CV studs just fell out on its own. I guess the worst part was how greasy everything was with the cracked boot and more kept oozing out. My plan over the next few days:
-Hit the stealership and get the new studs...came in today.
-Clean all the grease up
-Pop the remaining 5 CV studs
-Start digging into how the hub studs will be removed
Thanks again for all your help!
Dave
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One last little tip for you - use a boxed end wrench to hold the cv. Put the wrench on the stud in a way that it hits the lower A-Frame while you turn the nut with a 2nd wrench or socket; that'll bind it up on the wrench & be so much simpler to do by yourself. That way you don't have to go through all those silly changes with the 2x4 & the locking it in four wheel drive crap lol
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