Calling all lockrite guys
#162
#163
With the lockright, is it still pretty unnoticeable on road like some people say?
Im looking to buy one, i was really waiting for an aussie because i heard they were supposed to be very good, but if the lockright is a fair competitor then i might have to switch to wanting one of those
#164
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From: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
The aussie is infact a cheap knockoff of another knockoff of the original lockright. The aussie has a better warrenty but thats about it. They are supposibly made from weaker metals.
Aussie has been dragging their feet for years for the v6 aussie locker, they are not comming out soon. Thats a fact. I was waiting for them to come out and then decided "to hell with this, lockright it is!"
My lockright is almost 100% unnoticable above 5mph. I have let a few people drive it and its hardly noticable unless you know what to "look" for while driving it.
Now of course the best option would be an ARB or e-locker(s) but for the price, the lockright rocks! I would defantly do it again and I would recomend it to almost anyone.
Aussie has been dragging their feet for years for the v6 aussie locker, they are not comming out soon. Thats a fact. I was waiting for them to come out and then decided "to hell with this, lockright it is!"
My lockright is almost 100% unnoticable above 5mph. I have let a few people drive it and its hardly noticable unless you know what to "look" for while driving it.
Now of course the best option would be an ARB or e-locker(s) but for the price, the lockright rocks! I would defantly do it again and I would recomend it to almost anyone.
#165
Alright, then i guess lockright it is here too! Well, that is as soon as i get some extra cash. First i gotta get some tires for the lift! lol
So Jay, you have a V6, was the install hard? Ive only seen the install write ups for the 4cyl models.
So Jay, you have a V6, was the install hard? Ive only seen the install write ups for the 4cyl models.
#166
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From: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada
I actually had my lockright installed by a local toyota gear overhauler. He rebuilt my 4.88 third member and threw in the locker for free.
But from what I have read on here, the install is quite easy and requires no real special tools. Hopfally sombody who has installed a v6 unit will chime in for you.
But from what I have read on here, the install is quite easy and requires no real special tools. Hopfally sombody who has installed a v6 unit will chime in for you.
#168
hey ive been reading about the NO-Slip. Is that even worth the extra $100 bucks? Is it even better than the lockrite? Also ive heard the lockrite don't last very long? is that true, would i have to worry about the teeth wearing out or springs going bad or anything else going wrong?
Thanks
Thanks
#169
From Bill Cole, owner of Aussie Locker (TorqueMasters) on Pirate4x4. Bill personally called me today to tell me my locker was in the mail. Now that is impressive customer service.
From PirateBB.
"There are many differences between the Aussie Locker and the competition!
A few are:
Powertrax/Lock Right have for many years touted their "Shear Pins". They state that their pins are designed to shear/break when the locker gets in a certain position within the case. The so called "benefit" is that the pins break and not the locker. Aussie Locker takes a different design approach and designs our locker so that if it is properly installed, the locker will not get in the position that causes pins to break, therefore "No Shear Pins" in the Aussie Locker...our pins are designed to last the life of the locker.
Lock Right has patents and has touted their "spring-within-a-spring design. The Aussie Locker uses a robust spring that does not need two to provide strength and reliability. The EZ locker uses a little "top hat" to fit in the end of their spring". Fewer parts means higher reliability. Point to the Aussie Locker.
Lock Right and EZ use a design that have holes (windows) drilled in the sides of the axle gears and cam gears. Aussie Locker engineers feel that holes create opportunities for breakage and we do not use this design and have patents pending to cover our approach. We eliminate 8 side holes in our design. The use of these holes also requires little tunnels in the gears, close to the walls of the gear, where the pin and springs fit and we do not like that for reliability.
We use a teeth depth and angles for our product that our engineers have determined to be appropriate for the noise level, smoothness and reliability of our product. Other manufacturers use their own designs.
The Aussie Locker cam angles are of our design resulting in a design that meets our product objectives.
The Aussie Locker product undergoes a special and propriatary heat treating process to ensure long life and reliability.
Aussie Locker has a 100% quality audit under electronic microscopes where we measure specification conformance to the micron level. We will leave it to other manufacturers to specify their own quality level, but we are quite confident that ours is the best in the industry.
The Aussie Locker has the best warranty in the industry, with no "get out of jail free" cards the manufacturer can pull out if you have larger than OEM tires or high horsepower.
As to the pricing, why must a lower cost product been suspect as to quality? We sell direct to the end user through our web site. Our advertising is primarily on the web vs. the costly print media used by our competitors. And we understand that most of our customers do not have a lot of cash to throw around, so why charge them a high price, just because you can?
TorqMasters Technology Inc. is not some billion dollar company where lockers are not even worthy of a mention in the annual report. We are off roaders like our customers. When was the last time anyone saw the President of Detroit Locker or Richmond Gear out on the trail with their customers?
We set out to design a product that met "our" own traction requirements and we have successfully done so."
From PirateBB.
"There are many differences between the Aussie Locker and the competition!
A few are:
Powertrax/Lock Right have for many years touted their "Shear Pins". They state that their pins are designed to shear/break when the locker gets in a certain position within the case. The so called "benefit" is that the pins break and not the locker. Aussie Locker takes a different design approach and designs our locker so that if it is properly installed, the locker will not get in the position that causes pins to break, therefore "No Shear Pins" in the Aussie Locker...our pins are designed to last the life of the locker.
Lock Right has patents and has touted their "spring-within-a-spring design. The Aussie Locker uses a robust spring that does not need two to provide strength and reliability. The EZ locker uses a little "top hat" to fit in the end of their spring". Fewer parts means higher reliability. Point to the Aussie Locker.
Lock Right and EZ use a design that have holes (windows) drilled in the sides of the axle gears and cam gears. Aussie Locker engineers feel that holes create opportunities for breakage and we do not use this design and have patents pending to cover our approach. We eliminate 8 side holes in our design. The use of these holes also requires little tunnels in the gears, close to the walls of the gear, where the pin and springs fit and we do not like that for reliability.
We use a teeth depth and angles for our product that our engineers have determined to be appropriate for the noise level, smoothness and reliability of our product. Other manufacturers use their own designs.
The Aussie Locker cam angles are of our design resulting in a design that meets our product objectives.
The Aussie Locker product undergoes a special and propriatary heat treating process to ensure long life and reliability.
Aussie Locker has a 100% quality audit under electronic microscopes where we measure specification conformance to the micron level. We will leave it to other manufacturers to specify their own quality level, but we are quite confident that ours is the best in the industry.
The Aussie Locker has the best warranty in the industry, with no "get out of jail free" cards the manufacturer can pull out if you have larger than OEM tires or high horsepower.
As to the pricing, why must a lower cost product been suspect as to quality? We sell direct to the end user through our web site. Our advertising is primarily on the web vs. the costly print media used by our competitors. And we understand that most of our customers do not have a lot of cash to throw around, so why charge them a high price, just because you can?
TorqMasters Technology Inc. is not some billion dollar company where lockers are not even worthy of a mention in the annual report. We are off roaders like our customers. When was the last time anyone saw the President of Detroit Locker or Richmond Gear out on the trail with their customers?
We set out to design a product that met "our" own traction requirements and we have successfully done so."
#170
Okay so if the pins were to break i am sure you could order new springs/pins, Correct?
Also ive read that you should replace the crush sleeve with a solid spacer. Has anyone done this? What is required?
Also ive read that you should replace the crush sleeve with a solid spacer. Has anyone done this? What is required?
#171
hey ive been reading about the NO-Slip. Is that even worth the extra $100 bucks? Is it even better than the lockrite? Also ive heard the lockrite don't last very long? is that true, would i have to worry about the teeth wearing out or springs going bad or anything else going wrong?
Thanks
Thanks
From Bill Cole, owner of Aussie Locker (TorqueMasters) on Pirate4x4. Bill personally called me today to tell me my locker was in the mail. Now that is impressive customer service.
From PirateBB.
"There are many differences between the Aussie Locker and the competition!
A few are:
Powertrax/Lock Right have for many years touted their "Shear Pins". They state that their pins are designed to shear/break when the locker gets in a certain position within the case. The so called "benefit" is that the pins break and not the locker. Aussie Locker takes a different design approach and designs our locker so that if it is properly installed, the locker will not get in the position that causes pins to break, therefore "No Shear Pins" in the Aussie Locker...our pins are designed to last the life of the locker.
Lock Right has patents and has touted their "spring-within-a-spring design. The Aussie Locker uses a robust spring that does not need two to provide strength and reliability. The EZ locker uses a little "top hat" to fit in the end of their spring". Fewer parts means higher reliability. Point to the Aussie Locker.
Lock Right and EZ use a design that have holes (windows) drilled in the sides of the axle gears and cam gears. Aussie Locker engineers feel that holes create opportunities for breakage and we do not use this design and have patents pending to cover our approach. We eliminate 8 side holes in our design. The use of these holes also requires little tunnels in the gears, close to the walls of the gear, where the pin and springs fit and we do not like that for reliability.
We use a teeth depth and angles for our product that our engineers have determined to be appropriate for the noise level, smoothness and reliability of our product. Other manufacturers use their own designs.
The Aussie Locker cam angles are of our design resulting in a design that meets our product objectives.
The Aussie Locker product undergoes a special and propriatary heat treating process to ensure long life and reliability.
Aussie Locker has a 100% quality audit under electronic microscopes where we measure specification conformance to the micron level. We will leave it to other manufacturers to specify their own quality level, but we are quite confident that ours is the best in the industry.
The Aussie Locker has the best warranty in the industry, with no "get out of jail free" cards the manufacturer can pull out if you have larger than OEM tires or high horsepower.
As to the pricing, why must a lower cost product been suspect as to quality? We sell direct to the end user through our web site. Our advertising is primarily on the web vs. the costly print media used by our competitors. And we understand that most of our customers do not have a lot of cash to throw around, so why charge them a high price, just because you can?
TorqMasters Technology Inc. is not some billion dollar company where lockers are not even worthy of a mention in the annual report. We are off roaders like our customers. When was the last time anyone saw the President of Detroit Locker or Richmond Gear out on the trail with their customers?
We set out to design a product that met "our" own traction requirements and we have successfully done so."
From PirateBB.
"There are many differences between the Aussie Locker and the competition!
A few are:
Powertrax/Lock Right have for many years touted their "Shear Pins". They state that their pins are designed to shear/break when the locker gets in a certain position within the case. The so called "benefit" is that the pins break and not the locker. Aussie Locker takes a different design approach and designs our locker so that if it is properly installed, the locker will not get in the position that causes pins to break, therefore "No Shear Pins" in the Aussie Locker...our pins are designed to last the life of the locker.
Lock Right has patents and has touted their "spring-within-a-spring design. The Aussie Locker uses a robust spring that does not need two to provide strength and reliability. The EZ locker uses a little "top hat" to fit in the end of their spring". Fewer parts means higher reliability. Point to the Aussie Locker.
Lock Right and EZ use a design that have holes (windows) drilled in the sides of the axle gears and cam gears. Aussie Locker engineers feel that holes create opportunities for breakage and we do not use this design and have patents pending to cover our approach. We eliminate 8 side holes in our design. The use of these holes also requires little tunnels in the gears, close to the walls of the gear, where the pin and springs fit and we do not like that for reliability.
We use a teeth depth and angles for our product that our engineers have determined to be appropriate for the noise level, smoothness and reliability of our product. Other manufacturers use their own designs.
The Aussie Locker cam angles are of our design resulting in a design that meets our product objectives.
The Aussie Locker product undergoes a special and propriatary heat treating process to ensure long life and reliability.
Aussie Locker has a 100% quality audit under electronic microscopes where we measure specification conformance to the micron level. We will leave it to other manufacturers to specify their own quality level, but we are quite confident that ours is the best in the industry.
The Aussie Locker has the best warranty in the industry, with no "get out of jail free" cards the manufacturer can pull out if you have larger than OEM tires or high horsepower.
As to the pricing, why must a lower cost product been suspect as to quality? We sell direct to the end user through our web site. Our advertising is primarily on the web vs. the costly print media used by our competitors. And we understand that most of our customers do not have a lot of cash to throw around, so why charge them a high price, just because you can?
TorqMasters Technology Inc. is not some billion dollar company where lockers are not even worthy of a mention in the annual report. We are off roaders like our customers. When was the last time anyone saw the President of Detroit Locker or Richmond Gear out on the trail with their customers?
We set out to design a product that met "our" own traction requirements and we have successfully done so."
Yes you can buy replacement pins and springs. The spacer/crush sleeve thing is with a full diff set up which you DON'T do with Aussie/Lockright/NoSlip. But yes, it is a good thing to do if you are doing a complete diff setup.
#172
Okay then, you seem to have answered all my questions. Thanks.
Did the lockright seem like it was good quality. Ive heard it was, i mean you hear people saying the ezlockers seem cheap, is it completely opposite?
Did the lockright seem like it was good quality. Ive heard it was, i mean you hear people saying the ezlockers seem cheap, is it completely opposite?
#174
I've web-wheeled the piss out of my Aussie Locker and it was wicked. In 2wd, its better than open 4wd, nay 6x6 or even a tracked vehicle.
Maybe Aussie is stalling, but the customer service I have received is pretty fantastic- they called me to confirm my order, once again to say the were going to ship it and the next day to say it was in the mail and give me the tracking number. I'm impressed.
I've never heard anyone who owns an Aussie say that it didn't live up to the claims. I've never heard of one breaking either. Neither can be said for Lockright, where every third guy has a story of the springs or pins breaking. People who have tried both are always (as far as I can remember) convinced the Aussie is a better product.
Maybe Aussie is stalling, but the customer service I have received is pretty fantastic- they called me to confirm my order, once again to say the were going to ship it and the next day to say it was in the mail and give me the tracking number. I'm impressed.
I've never heard anyone who owns an Aussie say that it didn't live up to the claims. I've never heard of one breaking either. Neither can be said for Lockright, where every third guy has a story of the springs or pins breaking. People who have tried both are always (as far as I can remember) convinced the Aussie is a better product.
#175
Yes i am convinced aussie has GREAT customer service, i have basically been chatting around email with them trying to find out when they will become avaliable. whereas with lockright, i haven't heard anything back from them. I would rather go aussie but they are just not available.
Where as the lockright is $219 from PORC right now and available to my knowledge. So that might be the decision factor, depends on whats available when the time comes. If Aussie comes out with one within the next two or three months for the rear of a v6 then id jump on that.
Where as the lockright is $219 from PORC right now and available to my knowledge. So that might be the decision factor, depends on whats available when the time comes. If Aussie comes out with one within the next two or three months for the rear of a v6 then id jump on that.
#176
Maybe Aussie is stalling, but the customer service I have received is pretty fantastic- they called me to confirm my order, once again to say the were going to ship it and the next day to say it was in the mail and give me the tracking number. I'm impressed.
I've never heard anyone who owns an Aussie say that it didn't live up to the claims. I've never heard of one breaking either. Neither can be said for Lockright, where every third guy has a story of the springs or pins breaking. People who have tried both are always (as far as I can remember) convinced the Aussie is a better product.
I've never heard anyone who owns an Aussie say that it didn't live up to the claims. I've never heard of one breaking either. Neither can be said for Lockright, where every third guy has a story of the springs or pins breaking. People who have tried both are always (as far as I can remember) convinced the Aussie is a better product.
#177
I don't think anyone really debates that the Aussie is a better product anywhere, but they do have serous supply issues.
Just about everyone with a Lockright says they tried to get an Aussie first but gave up because they couldn't get one and went with the Lockright. And honestly, of those that do 99% are happy with it. The Lockright is a quality product that works great and lasts a long time. The primary reason that you see people say there's broke from time to time is that there's 10 to 1 out there as compared to Aussie. I personally tried for over 3 months to find out what the stock situation was and once a month they stated they got like 10 or 11 units that went straight to back orders. I gave up and decided to get a No Slip instead. While talking to Alex at PORC about the order he told me that the No Slips were basically junk but that if I insisted he's sell me one, but that the Lockright was what I wanted. According to him 1 out of every 4 No Slips he sold came back for warranty repair but he didn't get but about 1 in 300 Lockrights back. He also said he didn't have any Aussies or No Slips in stock (shady?) but he could order them.
I went with the Lockright and have been pretty impressed with it and have no complaints at all with it. For my wheeling I'd go lunchbox or ARB and not mess with anything in between. I've driven a truck with a full Detroit in it and it felt exactly like mine.
I would still take an Aussie over a Lockright strictly because of the warranty, but I would have no trouble buying another Lockright in the future.
Just about everyone with a Lockright says they tried to get an Aussie first but gave up because they couldn't get one and went with the Lockright. And honestly, of those that do 99% are happy with it. The Lockright is a quality product that works great and lasts a long time. The primary reason that you see people say there's broke from time to time is that there's 10 to 1 out there as compared to Aussie. I personally tried for over 3 months to find out what the stock situation was and once a month they stated they got like 10 or 11 units that went straight to back orders. I gave up and decided to get a No Slip instead. While talking to Alex at PORC about the order he told me that the No Slips were basically junk but that if I insisted he's sell me one, but that the Lockright was what I wanted. According to him 1 out of every 4 No Slips he sold came back for warranty repair but he didn't get but about 1 in 300 Lockrights back. He also said he didn't have any Aussies or No Slips in stock (shady?) but he could order them.
I went with the Lockright and have been pretty impressed with it and have no complaints at all with it. For my wheeling I'd go lunchbox or ARB and not mess with anything in between. I've driven a truck with a full Detroit in it and it felt exactly like mine.
I would still take an Aussie over a Lockright strictly because of the warranty, but I would have no trouble buying another Lockright in the future.
#178
I have 1620 on my V6 4runner. I installed myself and hear click when I try to hear with open windows on turn and very good traction on offroad.
BUT I do not experience the big issue on "on gas cornering"
No problem with complete stop and turn, parking, etc.
maybe I have 33" BFG mud terrain instead of street tires on road?
with 33" Super Swamper TSLs not big turning issue on street.
Does anybody have any idea?
maybe installed correctly? I did follow insteruction and only thing I can thing about is backrush setting. maybe too much preload on washer?
BUT I do not experience the big issue on "on gas cornering"
No problem with complete stop and turn, parking, etc.
maybe I have 33" BFG mud terrain instead of street tires on road?
with 33" Super Swamper TSLs not big turning issue on street.
Does anybody have any idea?
maybe installed correctly? I did follow insteruction and only thing I can thing about is backrush setting. maybe too much preload on washer?



