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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Busted TPS

So my readings for IDL-E2 ohms reading which is supposed to be 2.3k or less is reading infinity at 57mm, fully closed and fully open. Shouldn't this throwing a CEL or something?



In fact ive never had a CEL come up for anything in the 2 months ive had her, even when i accidentally drove her up the hill with the O2 sensor hanging out not in the pipe

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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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I was adjusting mine yesterday and I get the same thing, everything else checks out fine but the .57mm test is at open/infinite.

Hopefully someone can shed some light on the subject.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 85TurboRunner
I was adjusting mine yesterday and I get the same thing, everything else checks out fine but the .57mm test is at open/infinite.

Hopefully someone can shed some light on the subject.

Interesting, I wonder if this a common way for a TPS to die.
85Turbo are you getting decent gas mileage with the TPS in this state? Because i am getting 15/16 city & 18 hwy, a little better if i drive it like an old lady
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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I am going through the same thing...reading 4crawler's site...
So, if your TPS makes the idle transition (below 2300 to infinite) but you can only get it to do so at say 0.90mm instead of at 0.85mm, for example, does this mean the TPS is bad? Probably not, if everything else checks out, you may just be seeing the effect of the mfg. tolerances of the TPS and the throttle body stacking up and pushing the setting outside the "normal" range. Now, if the TPS never makes the idle transition (i.e. it reads infinite at all throttle openings), then likely it is bad.
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/TPS/index.shtml

What's the reasoning why you checked your TPS out? Only reason I am is because I am getting engine codes 25 and 26 and it runs rough.

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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BoostinChick
I am going through the same thing...reading 4crawler's site...

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/TPS/index.shtml

What's the reasoning why you checked your TPS out? Only reason I am is because I am getting engine codes 25 and 26 and it runs rough.

Well that confirms the TPS is dead, thanks Boostin, the only reason i hit the TPS check was because i made a huge laundry list of things to check on to see whats eating my MPG so horribly. No CEL
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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So im priceing out some TPSs and the usual schucks and napa stuff is around $85-$90 saw something on partstrain.com for $61, is this one of those "get what you pay for" items or anything is good. Anyone ever heard of Forecast brand TPSs? is there a better place to get one?

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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Stick with genuine Denso units.

Pull the part number from the site below:
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/q.html
^ A good site to bookmark

PM DeathCougar and see what he can do for you (http://www.nix99.com/) you can also check Auto Zone as well.

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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Check rockauto and amazon.com. I found some for about $35. I think a denso one was like $55
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Ok so i bought a new one, thanks DC. When i took it off to replace it, the PO had it set in a position that, when at closed throttle, read infinity. I readjusted and remounted and it works now haha.
Message for future searchers on Throttle Position Sensors: just because it reads infinity at closed throttle doesnt mean its a dead TPS. Take it off and fiddle w/ it first

BTW im keeping the TPS i bought from DC cuz he gave me such a good deal, ill have a spare now.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by shftatsix
Ok so i bought a new one, thanks DC. When i took it off to replace it, the PO had it set in a position that, when at closed throttle, read infinity. I readjusted and remounted and it works now haha.
Message for future searchers on Throttle Position Sensors: just because it reads infinity at closed throttle doesnt mean its a dead TPS. Take it off and fiddle w/ it first

BTW im keeping the TPS i bought from DC cuz he gave me such a good deal, ill have a spare now.

Hey would you be interested in selling that TPS, my is busted and having problems, when i start the car up, it wont stay in rev, unless if i rev it up pass 2400RPM then it is ok...
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by shftatsix
Ok so i bought a new one, thanks DC. When i took it off to replace it, the PO had it set in a position that, when at closed throttle, read infinity. I readjusted and remounted and it works now haha.
Message for future searchers on Throttle Position Sensors: just because it reads infinity at closed throttle doesnt mean its a dead TPS. Take it off and fiddle w/ it first

BTW im keeping the TPS i bought from DC cuz he gave me such a good deal, ill have a spare now.
Yea I was going to ask if you fiddled with it and did that consistency test that's also on 4crawler's site as well. The one where you loosen the TPS and move it CW/CCW, then measure the OHMs, but glad you figured it out!
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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So being as the ECU never went into "IDL mode", because the TPS never tripped that circuit, was the ECU in the closed loop circuit all the time? Even at idle speeds? I only ask because it seems my backfire/afterfire problem that i had when starting to take off up my hill has gone away.

Does the closed loop run richer or leaner than idle?

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