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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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bore 60 over

i just got done talking to the machine shop that has my block and im getting it bored due to the previous owner of the block left water on top of the pistons causing it to rust the cylinder walls. The machine shop says that it has to be bored 60 over. I have been getting my parts through engnbldr and i cant seem to find 60 over pistons. Has anybody bored there block 60 over and where did you get your pistons. Thanks
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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heres some,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...mZ170270048129
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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It has always been my understanding that you shouldn't go over 40 over on a 22RE, thus probably why Ted at engnbldr doesn't carry 60 over...that speaks volumes.


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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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also talk to this guy.. http://stores.ebay.com/My4n_Toyota_W...idZ2QQtZkmthis is where i get my rebuild kits.

good stuff, all oem.

unless your getting theese lol, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...mZ220262778907
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
I don't think you should/can bore a 22RE over 40.

i have no experience with the .060" over bore. although I'm sure you can bore it out that much! but I'm not saying he should or shouldn't.

i have done about 4 or 5 22re's with .040" over bore,
never had a problem!

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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
It has always been my understanding that you shouldn't go over 40 over on a 22RE, thus probably why Ted at engnbldr doesn't carry 60 over...that speaks volumes.


I just got off the phone with him and he don't carry them due to he cant get them. He said they are hard to come by unless you get special made. I know this can be done for my brother did it to his 91 yota with a 22re
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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anybody know a actual shop on the west coast with these parts?
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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Try KEITH BLACK maybe even chevy piston's
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by olharleyman
Try KEITH BLACK maybe even chevy piston's
I searched keith black but they done make them for the 22re.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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anybody have a bored 60 over block they are running now? Any complications?
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Ya know after thinking about this you should just get a new/used block .If you go .60 over the walls are going to be so thin and I would bet block heat becomes an issue with such thin walls
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by olharleyman
Ya know after thinking about this you should just get a new/used block .If you go .60 over the walls are going to be so thin and I would bet block heat becomes an issue with such thin walls
the machinest said that he has done about a dozen 22re blocks at 60 over with no problems. I was just curious if anyone else has done this to there own rig.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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40 over won't do it?

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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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get a new block dude..dont risk the chance of boring it .060 over...thats a lot...like others have said .040 is about the max most people would ever go..infact if i can get my hands on a 22ret im gonna bore it .040 over high performance cam..bigger turbo..alll kinds of little power addies..high horsepower 4 cylinder..lol
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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at .060 over I'd just have it sleeved costs more but will let you get back to the stock piston size and a reputable shop can do it well, a good shop will not advise .060 over on anything less than a BB they would advise sleeving the cylinders or other options.

Silvo-lite, Keith Black, and Eagle all make that size piston but for another application. If you can get the Actual Diameter, Pin Spacing and Pin Diameter. I might can find something (But cheap it aint gonna be)
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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well my family has been going to this shop for 20 something years and he is very reputable. He advised me sleeving the cylinders but that would cost way to much. And getting a new block is out of the question as to i dont have that much money.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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i might just sleeve one of the cylinders due to only one really needs to be bored 60 over and the others would be fine with 40
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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If your gonna sleeve only one and go 40 with the rest you better 40 over the sleeve job.
uneven piston compression can put you right back where you are now or even worse requiring a new head or block.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by olharleyman
If your gonna sleeve only one and go 40 with the rest you better 40 over the sleeve job.
uneven piston compression can put you right back where you are now or even worse requiring a new head or block.
Of course i would bore the sleve. Im just saying that if that one cylinder wont clean up after going 40 then i would sleve it and bore the sleve to 40 as well and call it a day. I didnt realize going 60 was that much a pita but i guess it is. I would rather go 40 and not worry about my walls being so thin
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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My block is in the machine shop. It has to go 60 over and my machinist said it was OK too. He is the only shop in town that builds racing engines and has been building them for many years, 22R's included.

LEt's get this straight though. It is NOT 60 over. It is 1.5mm and do not bore to 60 because they are not the same thing. We found some 1.5 mm pistons through sealed power I think. If you can't find some send me a PM and I will find out where we are getting them. Toyota carries 1mm but I am not sure about 1.5mm.
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