chimmike

Just wondering, for those of us who don't want to go SAS........does anyone make beefier front CV's with perhaps a better, more aggressive angle?

Bear80

The stock outter birfield joints are very strong, its the inners that are the weak link. You could buy a oem set of expensive outters, have them cryo'd and put a set of porsche inners. Infact Downey now sells the prosche inners and the flange.

Stomis

Sounds like money that could be put towards a SAS or a set or 2 of those CV's I keep hearing about with a lifetime replacment.

tc

Search - it's been discussed a number of times. Long story short, the answer is yes, but it'll cost enough to take a big chunk out of the SAS cost.

rocket

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don't waste your time.

chimmike

I just don't have the need to go SAS. I'll be running a front locker shortly and 5.29's. I don't want to dump that kind of money into this truck, only to have to convert the rear to a leaf setup as well.

I think that a beefed up IFS system will be plenty capable for my needs.

And I tried searching, but my brain isn't functioning trying to think of different keywords.

Why is this a waste of time? some strong, high angle CV's will last long and allow for better flex.

AxleIke

If you do beef the CV's, please let us know how it goes, and how hard it was, etc...

Also post up what you end up doing for the steering once you've got the front locked.

Albuquerque Jim

I suggest buying a 3rd gen. Not because the CV's are stronger, but because the steering is. I have seen more trail trouble from steering components on 2nd gen trucks than CV problems. It's no biggie to change a CV out in 30 minutes, but destroying steering components everytime out gets old. Just my $.02.

chimmike

LOL, why buy a truck when I already have one? That's even more than doing a SAS. The point of this is to NOT spend $3k.

RustBucket

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I'm working on a technology that will protect CVs from breaking. When I get it finalized, you'll be the first to know

deathrunner

porsche cv's are your best bet. Any of the desert race companies can direct you. check www.kartek.com or www.protrux.net

BLKNBLU

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Here's one thread: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...hlight=porsche
Try searching "Porsche" as it is the Porsche cv's that are supposed to be the hot item.

tc

So I get the feeling you are looking just because you're afraid you'll potentially blow CV's with the new setup?

The price range seems to vary between $500 and $1000 a set - a ton of money to spend on a "maybe". The other thing to consider is that you can't really beef up the 7.5" R&P, and the 5.29 pinion only has 7 teeth. i would rather blow hubs or CV's than a R&P any day...

Albuquerque Jim

I am merely making the point that the CV's are #1 cheap and #2 easy to replace. The steering seems to be more the problem with a locked front on a 2nd gen.

Flygtenstein

I have killed 6 outer joints. Not a single inner. The INNERS are STRONGER.

How many joints have you broken or are you giving in to internet hype?

The outer is a CV type, the inner is a tripod. On LT kits, they use T-100 inners that are true CV's for more range of motion.

2nd Gen steering licks the big one.

The best CV's come from Longfield:


are 30 splines and go in these:

deathrunner

Actually, on the 86-95 LT trucks, the inner is still a tripod, in fact the inner on a T-100 is atripod too. The Tundra has a true inner, I believe.

I'm not sure if anyone has come up with a replacement inner CV yet.

Flygtenstein

Good catch.

Tundra is for sure.

Oops on the T-100.

jsnby

2nd gen steering blows....that was one of the deciding factors for my SAS.... and I really got tired of knocking my truck out of alignment after going over speed bumps

chimmike

I'm sure I'll be doing the manual hub swap too.

Beef up? Cryo+shot peen can increase strength as much as 40%....which is pretty significant

I'll look into the porsche CV's. Mainly I'd like to get more flex out of them, since as stated the inners are tripods and a true inner CV will give more flex.

Thanks for the info so far guys.

No i haven't broken any yet....but I think the yet is just a matter of time now.

funny about the steering........I haven't been using a steering stabilizer for a few days now, and I'm actually completely surprised how the steering is not affected. Of course.....i'm still IFS which has a big role in that...but ya know....Steering can be beefed up/changed.

Yota82

SAS it and be one of the hundreds of people who got talked into it from an internet forum where the majority of the people think you need a solid axle to go through the Micky D's drive through. IFS is for losers!

Seriously, are you having a problem with CV breakage or are you wanting to prevent it from happening? IMO stock CV's are plenty strong for minimal flex and hp, unless you have a lot of travel CV angle is not so much of a problem. I understand that piece of mind is a good investment but there is a reason for Porche CV's being utalized and it all comes down to CV angle (the strength of a porche CV is secondary to the angle capabilities as far as a Toyota is concerned). If your suspension is stock or bracket lifted the angles of the CV's are not going to be such that are too much for the stockers. The reason that I say that the strength of a Porche CV is secondary is because you are dealing with a Toyota not a 600 hp buggy with 20+ inches of rear wheel travel on CV's. Front lockers are hard on everything and for the money I would rather break 10 stockers and replace them than buy an exotic specialty part that costs an arm and a leg that is capable of breaking too. They do break.

The stock steering on the Gen II's do suck but only until you put about $600 into them then they are fine.