Advise on shock & springs
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Advise on shock & springs
I have a '91 4Runner, it has the normal sag in the rear after about 200K, not too bad but noticable. I want to replace the springs and am gonna do shocks all around ta the same time.
I'd like to get maybe like an inch over stock of lift in the rear, but I don't want it to be too stiff since it's a daily driver. I tow a boat twice a year with it, going in the water in Spring and back out in Winter, and it collapses the stock rear suspension right now, so I'd like it to be stiff enough to deal with that. I go down the beach a bit with it, but no heavy off roading, so I don't need anything too hard core. I don't want to just replace the rear at the stock height though, because I'd like to overcome the rear wheel wells being cut lower than the front, part of what makes it look like sag.
Any advise on what springs to get, and also some decent shocks that won't be too stiff but will hold up good. I like Bilsteins, but am open to any suggestions.
Thanks.
I'd like to get maybe like an inch over stock of lift in the rear, but I don't want it to be too stiff since it's a daily driver. I tow a boat twice a year with it, going in the water in Spring and back out in Winter, and it collapses the stock rear suspension right now, so I'd like it to be stiff enough to deal with that. I go down the beach a bit with it, but no heavy off roading, so I don't need anything too hard core. I don't want to just replace the rear at the stock height though, because I'd like to overcome the rear wheel wells being cut lower than the front, part of what makes it look like sag.
Any advise on what springs to get, and also some decent shocks that won't be too stiff but will hold up good. I like Bilsteins, but am open to any suggestions.
Thanks.
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I'd say get some Downey or OME coils and some helper springs, the Firestone ones that fit inside the coil and can withstand a lot of weight, like these.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Thanks Mic09dcsm...I don't know if I want to get that into it, just looking for some basic good replacement springs with some lift and decent all around shocks.
Saw some stuff around here about Monroe's being pretty decent, but I just put Bilstein's on my friends pickup and I kind of like them.
Put an OME kit with full leaf springs and shocks in a friends '89 4Runner, was fun to do and it worked out perfect for him, but thought it might be a little too hard core for my Runner.
How are the OME coils, how much lift would I get in the rear from them?
Any opinions on a Rancho set up?
Thanks.
Saw some stuff around here about Monroe's being pretty decent, but I just put Bilstein's on my friends pickup and I kind of like them.
Put an OME kit with full leaf springs and shocks in a friends '89 4Runner, was fun to do and it worked out perfect for him, but thought it might be a little too hard core for my Runner.
How are the OME coils, how much lift would I get in the rear from them?
Any opinions on a Rancho set up?
Thanks.
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On my 86 4Runner:
I just installed TuffCountry add a leafs. These leafs are 25 inches long and 3/8 inch thick. Also, bought a bushing set. The shocks were replaced with ProComp ES9000's. The instructions for the spring replacement were pretty good. Took me about 6 hours to do springs and shocks. I didn't have any problem getting the springs apart, with 232,000 miles on them. I had 3/8 inch extra on my Ubolts without the overrides, and I was able to reuse them after adding a leaf. It gave me a good 3 inch lift and I'm clearly off the overrides now. I bought the overrides and bushing kit from Suspension Connection under $100. The ride is GREATLY improved. It was hard to decide between the ProComp ES3000's or 9000's. Price is about the same. Full set delivered $159.00. I'm happy with the gas shocks and don't find the ride too stiff.
I just installed TuffCountry add a leafs. These leafs are 25 inches long and 3/8 inch thick. Also, bought a bushing set. The shocks were replaced with ProComp ES9000's. The instructions for the spring replacement were pretty good. Took me about 6 hours to do springs and shocks. I didn't have any problem getting the springs apart, with 232,000 miles on them. I had 3/8 inch extra on my Ubolts without the overrides, and I was able to reuse them after adding a leaf. It gave me a good 3 inch lift and I'm clearly off the overrides now. I bought the overrides and bushing kit from Suspension Connection under $100. The ride is GREATLY improved. It was hard to decide between the ProComp ES3000's or 9000's. Price is about the same. Full set delivered $159.00. I'm happy with the gas shocks and don't find the ride too stiff.
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Thanks blaiwayw, I have put add a a leafs in other trucks, as well as full new OME spring packs, but don't have too much experience with rear coils.
I will take a look around at some OME packages, just had them in my head as to hardcore after using the lift kist with new leaf spring packs and shocks on my freinds '89 Runner. That thing looked like the A-Team van when we got done, the back was real high.
Any good websites for finding good package deals?
Thanks.
I will take a look around at some OME packages, just had them in my head as to hardcore after using the lift kist with new leaf spring packs and shocks on my freinds '89 Runner. That thing looked like the A-Team van when we got done, the back was real high.
Any good websites for finding good package deals?
Thanks.
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I went with the medium rate OME springs and their Nitrochargers on the rear of my 91 4Runner. The height difference is amazing. It leveled the back end out quite nicely. The medium rate springs ride okay (they are a bit firm for the ride, but not unbearably so) and with a full load of luggage and stuff, the truck still sits level, but rides very, very nicely.
I love the OME stuff. Next year it's front shocks and torsion bars from them. I just did one of their steering stabilizers the other day and it's amazing the difference they make. The thing doesn't shake or move over washboard or lumpy gravel roads.
I love the OME stuff. Next year it's front shocks and torsion bars from them. I just did one of their steering stabilizers the other day and it's amazing the difference they make. The thing doesn't shake or move over washboard or lumpy gravel roads.
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check out my thread, it has a list of options
but i recommend 80 series Land Cruiser coils in the rear 1.5 BJ spacers up front and some procomp ES9000s
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-guide-155339/
but i recommend 80 series Land Cruiser coils in the rear 1.5 BJ spacers up front and some procomp ES9000s
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-guide-155339/
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For your best ride would be 2 new springs (estimated at $200.00 ea.) and a Timbren kit (estimated at $250.00 a kit) www.trimbren.com. It is a great no hassle helper kit that works very well. And does not affect the ride empty at all.
The cheapest way would be 1 add-a-leaf to each rear spring (estimated at $30.00 ea.). This would add about 900 lbs of added capicity, raise your rear up about 1 to1 1/2" and the best part is that you can leave the main plate in the vehicle when you add this plate. It's quick and cheap and gets the job done. The down side is that it firms up the ride a tad. I don't believe you will notice much change in your ride. If you do, you can always yank them out.
Good luck.
Jason at TheSuspensionKing.
The cheapest way would be 1 add-a-leaf to each rear spring (estimated at $30.00 ea.). This would add about 900 lbs of added capicity, raise your rear up about 1 to1 1/2" and the best part is that you can leave the main plate in the vehicle when you add this plate. It's quick and cheap and gets the job done. The down side is that it firms up the ride a tad. I don't believe you will notice much change in your ride. If you do, you can always yank them out.
Good luck.
Jason at TheSuspensionKing.
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