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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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94 4runner with broken elocker ?

well i find this kidna odd that i broke mine and was woundeing if any body has broken the side gear

for some reson i think the axles are to short cause them to not fully go into the diff that or side load bad or just plain norm

you can see by how much about 3 mill going by the axle







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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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Good question.

I know Bobby Long sells long inner shafts for electric lockers. Of course this is for front applications but since the diffs fit front or rear (solid axle) I wouldn't think it'd be different.

Anyone compare an elocker to a regular diff for spline engagement?
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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oh i broke it going over this little hil in 2wd not locked at all

i gonna be getting my new axles today and gonna do proper measher ment befor i do any thing

so am the only one this has happend too ?
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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That spline engagement seems normal to me. I seem to remember that between 1.125 and 1.50 engagement was what I measured in the past.

Regarding the broken sidegear. I have seen this twice and documented it once. I'm wondering if a bent axle or axle housing has something to do with it. I also noted that some of the replacement sidegears have a thicker splined sleeve.

see this
http://gearinstalls.com/elockerbroken.htm
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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Where did you get the diff from? More importantly, how long have you had the diff and how much abuse has it suffered in the past?
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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all right thsi is what i have gather form toyota during this hole bs


toyota after 2001 they change the rear diff as in part number changed you only chould buy it as a hole 95 and up use allt he same part number's and you chould buy the side gear by it self now is it diff not sure

here is the part number for the gear that breaks 41331-3401

this is for 96 to 01 now is it the saem as the old one not sure

i bet if the axles was just longer there whould not be an issue since the other side will never break cause it just thick gear it will strip be for breaking

so going to put some gears int here and do a test fit and see what is up i may ahve ot go custom axle that just longer
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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That spline engagement seems normal to me. I seem to remember that between 1.125 and 1.50 engagement was what I measured in the past.

Regarding the broken sidegear. I have seen this twice and documented it once. I'm wondering if a bent axle or axle housing has something to do with it. I also noted that some of the replacement sidegears have a thicker splined sleeve.

see this
http://gearinstalls.com/elockerbroken.htm

I have an update on that repair I did back in Nov....he went out on 1 trailride(in March) and broke the same side again. I'm thinking that it's not the lockers fault ....that something else is going on....maybe something bent.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nashman00
all right thsi is what i have gather form toyota during this hole bs


toyota after 2001 they change the rear diff as in part number changed you only chould buy it as a hole 95 and up use allt he same part number's and you chould buy the side gear by it self now is it diff not sure

here is the part number for the gear that breaks 41331-3401

this is for 96 to 01 now is it the saem as the old one not sure

i bet if the axles was just longer there whould not be an issue since the other side will never break cause it just thick gear it will strip be for breaking

so going to put some gears int here and do a test fit and see what is up i may ahve ot go custom axle that just longer
you could be onto something there.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nashman00
all right thsi is what i have gather form toyota during this hole bs


toyota after 2001 they change the rear diff as in part number changed you only chould buy it as a hole 95 and up use allt he same part number's and you chould buy the side gear by it self now is it diff not sure

here is the part number for the gear that breaks 41331-3401

this is for 96 to 01 now is it the saem as the old one not sure

i bet if the axles was just longer there whould not be an issue since the other side will never break cause it just thick gear it will strip be for breaking

so going to put some gears int here and do a test fit and see what is up i may ahve ot go custom axle that just longer
Nash--I wanted to record that part number...but it seems to be missing 1 digit at the end? 41331-3401


edit....found it



4133134012 $98.86 $0.00 $71.32
Universals & rear axle - Rear axle - Differential - Side gear
Side gear, t100 1993 - 1994

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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that is it

i was on the pone with jay mark's toyota for some time tring to figure out this issue with the truck guy there best place for custmore support any were and cheep price

some thing change

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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well i got my axles today i gonan find out what the back spaceing is and how much of the ticker part os the gear is holding the shaft
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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If the locker motor is not properly timed the splines will engage a 'little' bit, making you think you're locked but it's not fully. The longer splined axle shafts spoken about earlier for the elockers are for the 8.4" landcruiser lockers, not the 8", longer splines not necessary

look at the last page of this PDF:

http://www.oceanstatecrawlers.com/OS...reassembly.pdf
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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mine broke when i was in 2wheel and no lock
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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every thing cheaked out fine my axle was bent

so now i feel ok now
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Mine just did the same thing and my 4runner is up on blocks with the 3rd pulled. I will check to see if my axle is bent.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nashman00
every thing cheaked out fine my axle was bent

so now i feel ok now
...so you feel ok now that you know the axle was bent?

How bent was it?
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