callthewrecker

i have a 96 bronco w/ 36' tsl's and 351 and i love it but the gas mileage is killin me and at 16 minimum wage is hard to keep it moving lol, but ive gotten a bunch of offers to trade and one guy has an 87 i like but it has no lift and i looked at some other 87-90s at school and online and all of them have the same 4.5 to 5 inch lift, is there anybody that makes a kit bigger than 4 inches? i want to do a sas someday but not now since its just to drive around town

myyota

If you go with a 5'' lift and and 35''-37'' tires you will end up with around 7'' to 8'' of lift, witch should be more than enough lift. On my 4Runner i have 5'' lift 63'' chevy springs in the rear and 5'' lift trail gear springs in the front, its more than tall enough. It also has a solid axle swap.

mightymouse

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AAAh to flame or not to flame..... Well here's the deal and it's just opinion so take it with a grain of salt. Your gas mileage question will be thrown out the door as soon as you put a big lift on a 4runner. These trucks have small motors and without proper gearing and tires they will be gas hogs and have no power to boot. So when considering what's gonna look cool and how much lift do i need to look cool at the mall think of this. Dude you're 16 and we all have been 16. I wanted the biggest most retarded lift just like you at 16 and had no money to do so. So here's my advice. Get the runner, learn how to work on it, put a mild lift on it, re-gear the diffs and add a locker with some 33's. To do this you won't need a butt ton of money and it'll be very capable and not suck you wallet dry when concerned with gas. With a bigger lift and bigger tires you start to need a really big budget. With ifs the 35" tire range is about your limit before you really start to brake stuff and destroying things. 33's are nice and are very capable on an ifs rig and are probably your best bet for a driver wheeler combo. Start searching and reading. this site has a lot of good members that will guide you in the right direction but if i were you i'd stay away from the "is there a bigger lift for a 4runner than 4"?" questions they'll only get you answers you will not like.
Or then again tell me i'm stupid and get the 4runner put a 4" bracket lift with a 3" body lift add some 38's and tell every one it's the best truck out there.
If you want to learn start here. https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f177...thread-169234/
and here https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f120...mation-121264/
The last thread is by a guy that wheels an ifs rig as hard if not harder than some sfa guys.
Goodluck dude.

93yotaSR5

i had a 89 bronco with 35's on a 5" lift. ( i had it for 9 hours or so before i traded it for my yota hahah) it was too high in my opinion.

Bojangles

My truck with a 4" suspension lift has plenty of room to clear 35's.
You could do a 4" suspension, and maybe a little bit of a body lift if you wanted to go bigger than 35's.

bobby_duce

Its kinda like comparing apples with oranges… with a shorter wheel base a 4-5” lift is almost perfect.

callthewrecker

i appreciate the advice, myyota- thats only a five? lol theres an 88 at my school that has ifs with a 5 and its not near that tall with its 35s, the solid fronts seem taller anyways and nice truck btw! haha mighty mouse- thats a good point, i figured it would bog out the motor down to about what bronco gets, i dont really care about what size tires im running i just love sitting up high but good point, bojangles- thats a nice truck, ive just got these plans to sit up super high and get good gas mileage but i guess it dont work that way haha

Swimmerboy2112

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A small lift and bigger tires is key, i have 2" of lift on 33's.

muddpigg

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Body lift or suspension? Fashion or function?

camo31_10.50

SwimmerBoy hit it!


small lift with nice size tires.


with a 4" suspension lift, and a little bit of trimming in the right spots..you can fit some 36" tires (not much wider than a 12.50...MAYBE a 13.50 with the right backspaced wheels.)

i think the end result for my 4runner (after i do the SupraLux 8" front diff and stronger axles.)will be to put some 37x12.50R20 tires onto it. (don't judge me...lol) although i will have a 2" body lift, and likely a 5cyl diesel or a V8 or a big V6...still want to look for 15-20mpg..although with a diesel i could be seeing 25mpg+

MyYota actually has a 6" lift, the front spring hangar adds an inch when he did his SAS.plus he's on 37's.

35's fit no problem with just a 4" IFS bracket lift.

callthewrecker

camo31- do you think a v8 could average over 15mpg with 37s or 38s in a toyota? considering how light it is.. theres no way my bronco is getting over 10

myyota

The key to running bigger tires is gearing. If you add bigger tires and keep the stock gears your truck is going to be slow and under powered and get bad gas mileage. But if you add the proper gearing your power and gas mileage will go back up to were it was stock or maybe slightly better.

myyota

Its a 5'' lift with 37'' tires.

camo31_10.50

I believe with the Proper V8 it's definitely possible to hit the 20mpg mark with some 35" or 36" tires with the proper gearing.

i think with whatever motor i get (it'll have atleast 200HP..but likely closer to 300HP+)i'm going to be running a 35" to 37" (advertised tire height..usually is about an inch shorter..so a 37" is really about a 36" tire.) and i'm going to have 4.88 gears.

i'm not sure how well the 7.5" diff would hold up to the tires and horsepower, although i wouldn't be HARD on it...i sure wouldn't be easy either...that's where the SupraLux front diff swap comes in. (run a search for "SupraLux" on here.) because then i could use an 8" set of gears instead of 7.5".

Rear would get upgraded shafts...front would get Supralux swap plus BlazeLand LT..more suspension travel plus stronger axles.

hell Search for Blazeland long travel! he's a great guy and makes a GREAT product!!!!!

i'm more about the Expedition rig though, i need a rig that can get me to school, work, across the state, heck across the nation, do some wheeling, then get me back home safely.

someone who is more offroad oriented would prolly opt for the SAS right off the bat, which is great for loads of flex, ability to run big tires, and stronger than the IFS setup FOR SURE....heck you could do a SAS with some 7" springs and run 44's if you wanted...however you're MPG number would be non existant without the proper gearing.

4" lift. 36" Iroks, 5.29 gears (plus lockers if you want em) and you should be set!

you'd likely get around 15mpg if you babied it around town.

Bojangles

Thanks man,
But yeah you have to sacrifice one or the other,
Big lift and tires without regearing=Low gas mileage
No lift and moderately sized tires with stock gearing=decent(not great) gas mileage.
But with my rig set up the way it is, with stock gearing and 33X12.50 m/t's...
Summer 16 to 18 MPG
Winter 14 to 16 MPG
So the answer to the gas mileage problem is regear

callthewrecker

thanks razed i really appreciate, and thats good point on getting your money back out of the v8 swap

chuntr

I'd add that you get some mileage benefit back by regearing, but you don't get it all back. it always takes more energy to turn bigger tires, so regearing just lets you lose that energy by going slower at the same rpm rather than having a poor power-response.

to the main question, I'll second what many here have said: if you are aiming to get better mileage, getting a toyota with a huge lift isn't the most cost-effective way to go about that. I have a v6 with 4.88 gears on 31"s, and I'd throw a party if I ever hit 20 mpg.

sebastianholmes

^^^^ your problem, you have the 3.slow... 4 cylinder power, and big block V8 fuel economy all wrapped up into that nice little v6