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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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4x4 isnt working

2 nights ago I went wheeling and sunk the 94 single cab shortbox 5 speed, manual hubs 22re past the doors. There was water up to the pedals. Now my 4x4 isnt working. I can lock and unlock the hubbs, I can engage 4-lo and 4-hi. But the front axle isnt engaging. Also the front drive line spins. theres no cluncking or chattering from the front end. Can someone give some advice?
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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check the chain in the transfer case.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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the drive shaft moves
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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check your vacuum hoses
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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there should be 2 hoses goin to your front axel
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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I have manual hubs.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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i also have manual hubs. does your cv safts move
when u put on 4x4
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Did the 22RE equipped trucks have ADD?

If you did a manual conversion, but retained your ADD, chances are you have lost vacuum to the actuator on the front of your diff.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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The two vacuum lines were both sliced on mine when I picked it up. Ran 2 new lines from the valves on the fender to the ADD actuator ... Fixed instantly 20 min job. Hopefully thats it
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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I dont have ADD, also the drive shaft moves, the hubbs are locked and when you try to turn the axle its locked in, the drive shaft when turned by hand feels locked too. I think that I blew the gears.
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Unless you have breather extensions, sinking the diffs is not a great idea. The heat in the diff creates a vacuum when it hits the cool water/mud sucking in whatever will pass. But, pull the cover and have look. Just take out the bolt from the diff cover mount and drop the crossmember. Draining the diff first, of course. Wonder what will come out?
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Ill do that tommarrow. How come the front drive line spins but then nothing happen?
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 05:02 AM
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Okay.....when you say the front DS spins, do you mean freely by hand or when 4wd is engaged and you are driving? If it's engaging at the transfer case it should not spin freely by hand.

Jack the front of the vehicle up and try to spin it. It should not move (in 4wd) because it's "tied in" with the rear portion of the powertrain. If it does, then start looking at the transfer case. If it doesn't, then it's not engaging the front diff gears. Or, the gears in the diff are not engaging the axles.

Conversely, have the vehicle in 2wd with the hubs locked. With the front jacked, spin a tire and the driveshaft and other tire should move also. If not, the diff is your problem.

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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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can i take the front cross member off with out supporting the lower a-arms
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Yes you can.

Have you drained it the diff yet? Or run any of the tests?
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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yes, I shattered the left side spyder gear, Im buying my buddies compleat front 3rd member for 40$.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Ewwwwww! Was is it due to contamination?

Nice deal on the replacement.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Yea there was water/dirt in my diff lube.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Mmmmmm.....breather extensions are in order, dear sir. Might hook one up to the replacement diff before you put it in. It's a tight squeeze in there.

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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Yes it is a tight fit haha, Im making an extension tomarrow.
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