no clue i bought it with the gears in it and the dealership has no clue what is in it but it has more take off than my old 95 with 33 on it and that had stock gearing in it and that was real bad

 

just plugged in "3.0 power" in the search, can't get any more vague than that:

weazy cams https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ight=3.0+power
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ight=3.0+power

whole buildup thread on 3.0 for power
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ight=3.0+power

thread about 3.0 power problem
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ight=3.0+power

all these were on the first page of a very vague search

Bumpin Yota, The comment about driving with the auto tranny was rediculous. We all know that the 3.0 is a decent engine, but when paired with a heavy 4runner, it leaves you asking for much more. The question is making it have enough power to make a difference with our heavy vehicles and if it is worth it. Seriously, have you driven one with an auto up any kind of mountain? I am talking from experience with stock tires and gearing, I don't have that now but I have put many miles on it with it stock. And I don't baby it either, once in the mountains you constantly have to shift into 2nd and have the rpms at 4,000 while you are barely making 40 some mph, shift back to drive (this is all w/ OD off) for a little bit so you can watch your tranny temp recover, rpms and speed die down, shift back to 2nd rpms increase feel power and watch tranny temp skyrocket, and repeat,repeat, repeat,...

Don't get me wrong, I love my 4runner and the 3.0, but people who say it has plenty of power are dillusional. I have gotten used to going slow, plus I like enjoying the scenery, I don't have to race where I am going, but plenty of power, hmmm......

 

I live in San Antonio, and there are very few hills here. I removed the airflow restricter though (the big plastic piece that makes it suck air in from only at the headlight) and it gave me a bit better throttle response. Cheap mod that might work. After that, you could do intake silencer removal, headers and exhaust. After that, it seems that you have to drop really big $$$ to get any more power out of it.

 

Removed that piece awhile ago and did notice a little bit better throttle response also. I am going to do ISR, headers, and exhaust soon also. After that, maybe a weazy cam if I ever have to tear into it.

 

I imagine you could do a centrifugal supercharger as well if you could get enough fuel to it and have a non-restrictive exhaust. Anybody know what the stock internals of a 3vze can handle?

 

Best option! Don't be afraid of 5.71 gears they do wonders for the 3.slo. You don't need to gear a 3.slo to do 120mph (like the factory does for some strange reason).

 

i dont understand this quote stuff on here yet but....

bumpin yota said:
So with every NA bolt on in the book the 3vze might equal or marginally beat out a bone stock 5vzfe.

yet he told me in another thread where we argued about the 3.0 vs 3.4 that with minor head work the 3vze can have just as much power as 3.4, now you say it is equal with all bolt on mods u can do.

all im going to say about the 3.0 is this:
i find it a bitch to work on compared to the 3.4, ive done tune ups, water pumps, and timing belts etc to both.


p.s. no hard feelings i just hadta bring it up bumpin, i dont mean to come in here bashing the 3.0 yet again either.

 

I think what bumpin means is that if you take a 3.turd and do every mod imaginable to make it a 3.shiny.turd, (spend the big dollars), then and only then will it be equal to a STOCK 3.4

Mod that 3.4 w/ a supercharger and exhaust and it'll leave any modded 3.slow in the dust.

 

I'm not sure if you know about my project or not, but when I'm 100% complete with it, I'll take that challenge with my "3.slow"

 

Ok this time go back and acutally read my post!

 

Because "...every mod in the book..." is focused on the heads. Incidentally it was engine builder that found he gained 30 rwhp over stock with 1mm oversized valves, a port and polish, and headers. 150hp + 30hp = 180hp = 5vzfe. So yes with minor head work a 3vze = 5vzfe

Add cams and wham you have a 3vze that will out run a 5vzfe....but not by much as the cams put the 3vze up by about 15-20hp. (A 20hp advantage when the vehicles racing are 4000+ lbs means youll have a very close race.)

 

I agree to a point. I think NA for NA, honestly the modded 3vze should out run the stock 5vzfe, but not by much really. Add FI and well your checkbook is the limit either route really. I mean if ya had a several thousand dollars above and beyond the mods you and I are doing to our 3.slows, you could get custom forged pistons, rods, and a 3vzfe crank, ring the deck and heads, add a copper HG and arp headstuds. This would essentially bullet proof the bottom end for a LOT of forced induction. But for the same dollar amount you'd have more HP from a 5vzfe...but you'd have the fastest 3vze aroudn too...but if it were a 5vzfe it'd be faster too...lol

Its kinda like comparing a LS1 to a 408 stroker LS1. Every mod you do to the stock LS1 would make more HP on the 408 LS1. Speaking of 408 strokers, who is going to be the first person to put a 408 in a 2nd gen 4runner? A built 408 with a heavy cam should make about 475-550whp and capable of handling an extra 250 shot should you want to beat up on a corvette or a modded trailblazer ss...heheheh Now what all would have to be done behind the engine to keep things from checking out I dont know....

 

Living on the bleeding edge, maybe you'll outperform a stock 3.4, but spend the same $ on a 3.4 and see what happens.

Also, when does it stop being a 3VZE and become something else? From what I've read about your plans you've made a something custom in between a 3.slow and a 3.4.
With the mods you've done it's hardly a 3VZE anymore now is it?

IMHO it's not the .4L that makes the big difference, it's the way the 3.4 breathes, injects and fires that makes the difference.

My 3.turd runs very well and may rival or even slightly outperform a stock 3.4, but this shiny turd is at the top of the game and what's been spent on it and the time wasted is just silly.

 

Not sure what I am looking for.

 

Im agreeing with you. I think you confused my post with the fellow who posted right after mine. I listed WHY the 3.slow has its knickname of "slow."

I do think it gets a bad rap imo. Mine did just fine all through the appalachain mountains when I drove through the area on 2 different occasions. It's certanly no powerstroke or cummins, we own both an ISB and a 6.0PS, but it gets the job done. The mods im doing to my 3.slow is simple, to make it more fun to drive and a DISTANT second reason is to kill stock H2's on the pavement. (itll already kill em off road! ) But most of the road queen H2s around here are driven by uppety retards that think they arethe fastest hting on wheels! LOL

 

I see, I did kind of have his post and yours in my head while I was writing that. H2's suck

 

im not challenging anyone with a 3.0 to a race, that would be a slow race for both of us lol. i work at a nissan dealership as a tech and i drove a 3.3 v6 supercharged frontier today. ive driven them before and a stock 3.4 feels the same. sorry it was on my mind, i figured id give you guys the heads up when racing nissan frontiers & xterras lol.

 

Alright, I can completely agree with that. You are totally right. I have made a 3.0 that has just fixed the breathing problems of the engine and gives me an easy supercharger option. As far as my money goes, it's not the swapping that really cost me money, it's the rebuild and buying alot of parts that I didn't need. I could do it over for alot cheaper now.

As far as a modded 3.0 against a modded 3.4 if you spent the same amount of money? My money is on the 3.4 anyday.

I have said it before and I'll say it again. If I could do it all over again, I would swap in a diesel. That is what we need to push these heavy rigs on and off road. It's not about hp in our game, it's about torque.

 

wait you said a supercharged 3.3 nissan feels about the same as a stock 3.4l toyota?

btw - since you work at Nissan, how do they fair over the long term? Are most of the customers happy with em?

 

well the 3.3 with s/c is around 200hp, 3.4 190hp stock, torque on the 3.3 s/c is around 240, 3.4 is around 225 i think. finding a 3.3 s/c that isnt automatic is probably imposible, so compared with my 5spd 4unner it feels the same. it just made me want the s/c for my truck lol. the 3.3 isnt that bad of a motor, nissan has made worse. u wont see mileage with any nissan like you do on toyotas. but its common to see 3.3 s/c with 140k 150k miles. id rather work at a toyota dealership but nissan is ok cuz they are comparable.