Cyberman

I've searched, but want to verify this. From what I've read, it is not possible to bolt on a 22RE to a 3VZE manual transmission, and it won't bolt on to the existing motor mounts.

Can someone please clarify this? I have the opportunity to get a 22RE, complete with the wiring harness and ECU.

My 4x4 Extra cab originally came with a 3VZE and a manual tranny.

rdlsz24

My truck has that swap, but I don't know a whole lot of what went into it since I bought it the way it is. I do see he had to weld the 22RE motor mounts onto the 3.0 motor mounts. I can take pictures if you want. Not sure if the 3.0 tranny works with the 22RE or not.

Rob

fillsrunner4

You can buy a r151f tranny bellhousing to mate the two but your stock r150f bellhousing will not bolt up. Give marlin a call maybe he could sell you one. As for mounts youll need to make your own because it is true they are different. Also i hope you know how to wire because youll need to redue the engine to body harness in order to make it work

Cyberman

Pics will help. I can't believe that the mounts that are on the frame are different.

I can wire, but you're talking about the wiring inside the cab, and not the ECU to engine wiring?

fillsrunner4

To mate the engine potion that goes to the dash. I believe its two plugs in the cab.

rdlsz24

Here's 2 pictures I took of the driver side mount from different angles. The pics aren't the greatest since it's kinda hard to get in by them to get a good shot.

View from driver's front wheel well:


View from underneath front of truck:


As you can see the 22RE mounts are a couple inches more towards the front of the truck than the V6 mounts.

Rob

Cyberman

That's weird. So, the motor is forward a few inches. I'll have to look at my friend's 94 22RE and see how that one looks.

Jay351

woah, hackjob alert!

slater442w30

Motor mounts are very different, if you dont believe, then go ahead and drop a new engine in there so I can laugh at you. Radiator is different, shroud is different, power steering lines are different, ac lines are different, tranny is different, fuel lines are all different, have a good time with that, I rip out 4 cylinders and put in V6's, done three so far, never been happier with a rig since the 22re was out of them, more power, more reliable, easier for me to work on but then again I am a mechanic.

yotasavg

that's what i was thinkin'!!

CoedNaked

Might as well put a 20R in there.

fillsrunner4

Ide say those mounts need some more to them

b.miller123

if your truck is still running, then why even bother?

it's going to be more work than it's worth, and it will ruin your resale value, because nobody likes to end up with...............um........a hack job swap

how many miles are on the 22-RE? Do you know for certain that there is nothing wrong with it? ever heard it run?

I ask these questions because sometimes "a good deal" mearly means that it's not worth anything unless the guy selling it can convince you it is

If it really is a good deal, and you know what you are getting, then go ahead an buy it, and then find a truck with a blown motor, one that actually came with that engine, and replace it, you'll wind up with two rigs and (hopefully) neither will be a hack job

the amount of money/time/frustration that you put into trying to get a 22-RE into your truck will never be repaid in the mileage/reliability gains, which are minimal at best

CoedNaked

Sounds like too much of a PITA to me and too much hacking that needs to be done. The 3vze is a good motor. Get a rebuild kit & give 'er.

Cyberman

Just verifying the issue. No, the V6 doesn't run (PO threw 2 rods).

ozziesironmanoffroad

then buy another V6. if anything buy a 3.4. way too much work to swap out the harnesses and crap
*edit* what i meant was if you're gonna swap harnesses anyway, go with the 3.4. sry, not fully awake

thook

This is like what happened to me....kind of. A friend gave my wife her '92 4rnr. The motor (3.0) had been completely rebuilt. After 21k miles, a rod or bearing cap (not really sure what) gave out, but the top end was still great. So, I bought another "complete" rebuilt for less than what it would have cost to have the original motor re-rebuilt. 3k miles later, the "new" one burned a valve and the cams and journals were scored beyond repaired. The top end was just not done right. SOOOO......I took the original top end and put in it on the "new" bottom end and now have a good working motor. I still came out little less than I would have getting the original motor rebuilt.

Since you have a good top end already, find a complete bottom end or a complete motor with a bad top end and you're in business, eh?

infiltrator

arent you going "back in time" lol swapping for the 22re? why?

22re vs 5vze whats better?

JAH ARMY

i take a 22 over a 3v anyday

Jay351

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