22re with 22ret engine harness???
#21
a few years ago i swapped out a 22ret in my 86 to a 88re .i ended up using the turbo injectors because the 88re was different .from what i was told they can flow more fuel other than that they work fine. the throttle body was different, one was for a auto trans and one was for a standard. i reused the turbo wiring and ecu .the turbo light still came on like before . the main problem i had was the gearing in my truck was higher for the turbo and it was gutless on the hills.so you might want to check your gearing before you start.
Last edited by swampfox; Feb 24, 2010 at 04:03 PM.
#22
why go through all the work for a little spilled milk... be a real man. rebuild that engine the right way... instead of the stupid cheap way... if you want a 22re just go pick one up.. your going to find yourself dealing with alot less headace's
50 bucks for a engine doesnt sound like it worth the time and effort.. i would do a compression check and pull the oil pan off and check the main bearings and rod bearings with plastic gauge...
i dont know about you but i like to only hae to to a job once, and not have to do it over and over again... you may get by a few thousand miles but you never know until you do GOOD INSPECTION on the engine.
50 bucks for a engine doesnt sound like it worth the time and effort.. i would do a compression check and pull the oil pan off and check the main bearings and rod bearings with plastic gauge...
i dont know about you but i like to only hae to to a job once, and not have to do it over and over again... you may get by a few thousand miles but you never know until you do GOOD INSPECTION on the engine.
#23
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why go through all the work for a little spilled milk... be a real man. rebuild that engine the right way... instead of the stupid cheap way... if you want a 22re just go pick one up.. your going to find yourself dealing with alot less headace's
50 bucks for a engine doesnt sound like it worth the time and effort.. i would do a compression check and pull the oil pan off and check the main bearings and rod bearings with plastic gauge...
i dont know about you but i like to only hae to to a job once, and not have to do it over and over again... you may get by a few thousand miles but you never know until you do GOOD INSPECTION on the engine.
50 bucks for a engine doesnt sound like it worth the time and effort.. i would do a compression check and pull the oil pan off and check the main bearings and rod bearings with plastic gauge...
i dont know about you but i like to only hae to to a job once, and not have to do it over and over again... you may get by a few thousand miles but you never know until you do GOOD INSPECTION on the engine.
I agree 1000%!
He can also either drop the 22RE block under the RTE head and CT26 it, or change the pistons and bottom end over to the RTE block if he doesn't want to drill the oil holes...
Either way... I'd put the thing back together the way it's supposed to be...
#24
i just went and got my motor today and alredy have it on a stand and pulled appart. mains and rods are all good. im sendin the head out to be preshur cheaked. i know its a good motor it ran great in the truck. SWAMPFOX i was told that the gears were diff and am planin on getting 4.30s from an auto to swap in. thanks for the imput. realy appreciate it
#25
RUN THE RTE INJECTORS ON THE RTE ECU!
No, you will NOT run rich. Anyone saying that hasn't put a whole lot of thought into EFI, or is just regurgitating irrelevant information they heard elsewhere. Sure, if you ran RTE injectors on an RE with an RE ECU, it will run rich, but that's not what's happening here:
The 22R-TE ECU expects the RTE injectors. If you were to say, run RE injectors on your RTE ECU, they will flow less, giving your motor less fuel than what the ECU actually thinks is going in. Your motor will run LEAN. very lean because the injectors are much smaller than the ECU thinks. The ECU has absolutely no way of knowing what size your injectors are, or how rich/lean your motor is running (with the exception of cruising with the O2 sensor, but that's a VERY limited amount of time). The ECU just assumes the injectors are a certain size, and dumps fuel in accordingly. If you go and swap out the injectors with RE ones, you'll throw everything off. Make sense?
If you were to run RTE injectors on an RE ECU, yes, you would run rich, but not on an RTE ECU. The injectors need to be matched to the ecu. The fact that the motor's an RE or an RTE doesn't matter in the least. The ECU is tuned for a specific displacement with a specific size AFM, and a specific size of injectors. The rest is irrelevant.
No, you will NOT run rich. Anyone saying that hasn't put a whole lot of thought into EFI, or is just regurgitating irrelevant information they heard elsewhere. Sure, if you ran RTE injectors on an RE with an RE ECU, it will run rich, but that's not what's happening here:
The 22R-TE ECU expects the RTE injectors. If you were to say, run RE injectors on your RTE ECU, they will flow less, giving your motor less fuel than what the ECU actually thinks is going in. Your motor will run LEAN. very lean because the injectors are much smaller than the ECU thinks. The ECU has absolutely no way of knowing what size your injectors are, or how rich/lean your motor is running (with the exception of cruising with the O2 sensor, but that's a VERY limited amount of time). The ECU just assumes the injectors are a certain size, and dumps fuel in accordingly. If you go and swap out the injectors with RE ones, you'll throw everything off. Make sense?
If you were to run RTE injectors on an RE ECU, yes, you would run rich, but not on an RTE ECU. The injectors need to be matched to the ecu. The fact that the motor's an RE or an RTE doesn't matter in the least. The ECU is tuned for a specific displacement with a specific size AFM, and a specific size of injectors. The rest is irrelevant.
#27
You said in your very first post, that you wanted to run the 22re on a 22rte harness with a 22re ECU.... or did you mean to say the 22rte ECU?
I don't recall seeing a year for the 22re that you bought, but if you are planning on using the 22rte engine harness, keep in mind that Toyota went to high impedence injectors in 88/8 and they have a type "F" connector. Before that date the 22re/rte had low impedience injectors that used a type "E" connector. So your 22rte injector harness will not plug on to newer injectors. You also have an injector resistor module mounted over on the drivers inner fender, close to the coil which is not used after 88/8. If you are going to run the 22rte ECU and injectors it may work okay, but your gas milage is going to be the pits, if you decide on a 22re ECU you need the ECU and injectors out of an 85 to early 88.
I don't recall seeing a year for the 22re that you bought, but if you are planning on using the 22rte engine harness, keep in mind that Toyota went to high impedence injectors in 88/8 and they have a type "F" connector. Before that date the 22re/rte had low impedience injectors that used a type "E" connector. So your 22rte injector harness will not plug on to newer injectors. You also have an injector resistor module mounted over on the drivers inner fender, close to the coil which is not used after 88/8. If you are going to run the 22rte ECU and injectors it may work okay, but your gas milage is going to be the pits, if you decide on a 22re ECU you need the ECU and injectors out of an 85 to early 88.
Last edited by Hadmatt54; Feb 28, 2010 at 05:05 AM.
#29
i say quit making a bunch of hassel for your self.. if you dont know how to rebuild the engine just pay to have it done... just re-main the 22rte and be square...
if you say you dont have the money i disagree... quit buying soda pop, ciggerates beer, movie rentals... you get the idea... pickup a side job
if you say you dont have the money i disagree... quit buying soda pop, ciggerates beer, movie rentals... you get the idea... pickup a side job
#30
i now how to rebuild engines and have done atleast 5 22res before. i dont have any money realy aside from plowin but i only do one driveway. shes well on her way though. i just cant wait for the snow to be gone so i can put it in
#33
so i started working on pulling the turbo motor today. got all but the ex-manifold off and started to undue the bellhousing bolts. was going good until i got that feelin............................................ .......... snap. yup i broke a @#$ @%& belhousing bolt. the 14mm nder the slave. the one that goes into that little wing thingy that comes off the motor. so know i have to find some way to get it out or cut it. my bets on cut-off wheel.
#34
got the turbo motor out and all the random stuff swaped onto the re motor. got the re motor in but not evrythings hooked up like the upper and lower efi. very productive day today. i might be able to get the gf to bring her camera back over to put pics up for fun.
#37
I just say it because the turbo exhaust is not even close to bolting up to the N/A motor. It's probably the only part of the whole swap you'll need to fabricate. You'll need the N/A exhaust manifold, and downpipe, and weld it under the truck to your existing exhaust, or you'll have to get a whole N/A exhaust and stick it on.
#38
ooooo thats what you ment. yea i found that out when i tryed to put a N/A manifold on the turbo head and it didnt evn come close to matching up. i already have a re manifold and y-pipe. i dont have a exaust on the truck. what was on it when it was turboed was just the down pipe into a glasspack(how i bought it) so i get to make my own new system. but i should hopefully have it running tommorow if i dont run into any problems. Thanks again for all your help with this swap
#40
well i got it running. started up first try i couldnt belive it. all i realy need to do to it is get an o2 sensor wire thats longenough to go to the spot on the re exaust. but other than that it is all good and running. thats for your help guys


