84-85 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd gen pickups and 1st gen 4Runners with solid front axles

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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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looking for a lift kit...

this is the only one ive found that isnt over a 1000 dollars. is this a good kit or no?

http://store.4wheelingplus.com/prodd...od=715H&cat=83
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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you can do stock rear springs up front and chevies in the rear and get that much lift for about thta price with way better flex...
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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Downey's full kit is around $500 ±
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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I have no first-hand experience with Rough Country lift kits, but I'm told from friends who've used them that they are garbage. Just my $.02
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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you should be able to get into a full 3" skyjacker softride w/ 4 springs for about $700. Similarly for OME 2". Or a Downey 3".
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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i think this is the best bang for your buck,http://www.trail-gear.com/classic.html

then do the rear with chevy springs or just get this kit after your done with the front.http://www.trail-gear.com/rearsuspension.html

free shipping too. only thing youll need is an ifs steering box and maybe some driveshaft work. id go with the bilstein 5150 shock upgrade too.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Rears up front and chevy rears is like 200, but is complicated, i.e. pinion angles, lengths to mount new shackle mounts. i would go with trail gear, im getting their rear spring kit when i build my 4runner. Personally i would get their rear springs and front springs, but if your going over 33s get hysteer or crossover.

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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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yea that trail gear kit has everything you need as far as suspension and steering less the 86-95 ifs steering box. i just ordered my front kit for the 84 with the bilstein 5150 resivoir shocks for 850 from a local dealer who happens to be a trail gear dealer and good wheeling buddy. as for the front drive shaft im going to do this....

http://infohost.nmt.edu/~jscarbro/driveshaft.htm
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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just dont go over 25 in 4wd. but good choice.
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 04:29 AM
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not really worried about vibration if im going 25 off road in 4wd the driveshaft vibration aint crap compared to a washboard road.. most of the time im wheelin i dont even use 4wd except for some of the super deep mud or if ive been drinking and decide to go rootin'
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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yeah thats right your in florida no snow.lol
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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or if ive been drinking and decide to go rootin'
dumbass
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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no attacking members, ive seen members get banned for less.....

and thats pronounced ( do mas)

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonofmayhem
just dont go over 25 in 4wd. but good choice.
Ever actually been in one that was built well?

I heard all the same crap and now all the people who told me that want me to help them make theirs.

Mine doesn't have noticeable vibrations until about 50 mph indicated which is like 60~65 with 35" tires. That's driving with hubs locked and TC in 2hi. (I don't ever go that fast in 4wd but I would be suprised if it was worse.) It does make a constant clicking sound when it gets dry and there's no load on it but that's not really something I care about.

Not trying to be mean but I get tired of hearing this every time square shafts are brought up and mostly from people who are spouting 3rd hand drivel they heard posted from someone else who hasn't been there or done that.

Now if you actually have ridden in one then you should tell the person who made it to do a better job of getting the ends straight before tacking them in place.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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thank you for the info, i guess it really depends on how well you centered the u joint bosses in the square tubing. im sure theres a shop that could even ballance it for you if you really wanted to use 4 high at high speeds , i can pretty much go anywhere i want in 2wd 4wd is only for extream stuff and for that i typicly use 4 low like i said. i would however be concerned with my pinion bearings and seals wearing a little faster but i dont think it would be a signifigant issue as most of us check those things pretty regularly and its not a hard job to change a seal.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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thank you for the info, i guess it really depends on how well you centered the u joint bosses in the square tubing. im sure theres a shop that could even ballance it for you if you really wanted to use 4 high at high speeds , i can pretty much go anywhere i want in 2wd 4wd is only for extream stuff and for that i typicly use 4 low like i said. i would however be concerned with my pinion bearings and seals wearing a little faster but i dont think it would be a signifigant issue as most of us check those things pretty regularly and its not a hard job to change a seal.
I don't know if you could balance one. I've heard no because there is too much slop. They do have some wiggle room. I don't know for sure though because I've never felt the need to have mine balanced.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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yea i guess your right. do you think theres a way to get an outter tube that fits tighter on the inner?
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Not really. Most square tubing has a seam down the inside. The reciever/stinger tubing is the only easy to find tubing (at least around here) that fits well. Actually you can use any thickness inner tube since it's OD is all that matters for it to fit tight in the reciever tube. It's just a strength issue. Reciever/stinger tubing is the way to go
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonofmayhem
just dont go over 25 in 4wd. but good choice.

That's going to be a problem with any lift kit of more than about 2".
You've got a choice: Death wobble or driveline vibration.
The correct fix is to cut and rotate the axle housing, which is a real PITA.

A real lift: DIY.
44044s up front.
1/2 chevy's in back + leaf spring
hysteer
Shocks + lines

Still under 1k, higher than 3in and a basis for a very capable 4wd after you add lockers..

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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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yea i have actually been considering that issue and was remembering an episode of extream 4x4 where they did that. i reckon if you have a good welder ,know how to do a precise cut and have some patience it wouldnt be a bad job.
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