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Uh-oh, bad noise while in 4 wheel drive

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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Uh-oh, bad noise while in 4 wheel drive

I just picked up this truck last week and had my first chance to really use the 4-wheel drive today. While in 4lo, there is slow "thumping" sound..... the sound is twice as fast when is 4hi and not there when is 2 wheel drive (with hubs locked) Since the front drive shaft will spin with the hubs locked, it seems like it might be a u joint because it would be under load while in 4 wheel drive and just spinning with the t case in 2wd. Any thoughts?
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 03:30 AM
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could be a Ujoint, have you checked the front shaft for excessive play?
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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Yeah, it did seem to have quite a bit of play.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Check the ball looking joint in the front shaft ( called the double carden joint) I had one go in a 81 pick up. It still worked in 2 wheel but sounded dangerous in 4 wheel. <B>
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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While under the truck, will there be any visual clues if it's bad or not? What should I look for.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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The front driveshaft will have a knuckle close to the transfercase , you'll see a little ball like thing inside a housing push it up and down and see if it's broken. Its just after ujoint closest to the case. It may be cheaper to find a front shaft.
hope I helped! <B>
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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I had this exact same noise on my 84 at one time. When the hubs were locked and in 2wd....no noise. When in 4wd hi/lo with the hubs unlocked....no noise. With the hubs locked and in 4wd......it sounded like a box of rocks. I rebuilt the the front drive shaft and the noise went away.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fustercluck
I had this exact same noise on my 84 at one time. When the hubs were locked and in 2wd....no noise. When in 4wd hi/lo with the hubs unlocked....no noise. With the hubs locked and in 4wd......it sounded like a box of rocks. I rebuilt the the front drive shaft and the noise went away.
I'm curious; it looks like you did the rebuild yourself…. a friend of mine told me the cardan joint is a bear to work on. Did you run into any trouble with it? Also, how much did the rebuild cost?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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I'm curious; it looks like you did the rebuild yourself…. a friend of mine told me the cardan joint is a bear to work on. Did you run into any trouble with it? Also, how much did the rebuild cost?
I have a friend with a machine shop.......

The double cardan is more tricky but do-able with patience. A shop will likely charge a hundred bucks depending on the condition of the slip spline etc.

It made a world of difference. Funny thing is, that the bad u-joints did not demonstrate their condition until after I installed the lift. It makes sense now, but at first, did not get the relationship.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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So What was the verdict? Ujoint or Carden?
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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The jury is still out. I have the truck parked out at a friend's farm. It's either been too cold or too wet to wrench on it for the last couple of weeks. I did however call a drivetrain shop and he quoted me anywhere from $200-300 to rebuild the driveshaft. This seems a little high, no?
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Check on a custom one, or I have a used one from my 83 I'll sell for 50 bucks plus shipping.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Here's a pic
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wrinkled83
Check on a custom one, or I have a used one from my 83 I'll sell for 50 bucks plus shipping.
How difficult are they to work on? I'm not a master mechanic but I do know the end of a screwdriver. I checked the prices of parts (u joint/cardan) at Scmucks and are lower than expected.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 83beater
How difficult are they to work on? I'm not a master mechanic but I do know the end of a screwdriver. I checked the prices of parts (u joint/cardan) at Scmucks and are lower than expected.
rebuild linky
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Last time I worked on mine I stuffed a dirty screwdriver threw my finger! Thank god for tetnus shots!
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Does anybody know where i can get the replacement balls for these on a 82
Thanks Csob
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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mine has a similar noise, more of a clunking sound. sounds like i will be rebuilding the front shaft soon.

Al
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