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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Need some ideas: frame repair/ rust prevention

Here she is! Was on the brink of selling it but glad I decided to keep her!



Starting to strip it down









Here's my problem, on one side only, don't see it anywhere else, what to do ???



Rust rust rust! What a dirty word!!! Any suggestions for the floor boards??









So there it is, I've got a lot of work ahead if me... It'll be awesome when I get done I know but it's kinda like standing at the bottom of mt everest!

Any advice would be great!

Thanks 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Sorry here's the problem!
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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Ideas on what to do, or how to do? I'd say a good media blast of the frame to see exactly what you're working with and how much metal you looking at replacing/patching.
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Sorry, how to do... Mediablast the whole thing?
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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ouch looks like alot of work. when i got my truck it had a little puddle of water under the seats. i sanded it down, put bondo on a few little screw holes the previous owner made and then sprayed it with rubberized undercoat. if i could do it again i would probably go with the POR-15 that everyone raves about but i think i'll make it.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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Ummmmmm wow. I would go to eastwood.com and shop around.....since you're got most of the truck apart already might as well treat the underbody so it doesn't rust again. They have a couple of videos on it and it looks like it works pretty well. I also would recommend either that raptor bedliner (made by upol?) or some of the rubberized underbody coating from eastwood. It's got some pretty good reviews on the website. I was looking at prices and seems to me like it would take about 400-600 bucks to get rid of the rust and coat it with the rubber stuff. Good luck and post pics!

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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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Tweaked your thread title slightly.

Take a wirewheel to clean up the rust. Get rid of all of it you can.
Try pushing a screwdriver thru parts of the frAme to check for other soft spots.
For the frame get some poster board or cardboard to make a template.
Use 3/16" or 1/4" plate to make the patch panel

This link
http://www.trail-gear.com/miscellaneous
Has a good example of trail gears frOnt frame reinforcement panels, same concept would apply to your rear frame repair.

Also search for YotATony's frame repair thread, it is from a couPle of years ago since he hasn't been active but you can see whAt he did.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Thanks octdrop!
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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How much does the tailgate go for?
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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http://www.eastwood.com/satin-full-f...nsion-kit.html

Probably your best bet for the frame....i'd try to clean a some of the rust up first....don't go too crazy. Then use the kit. i plan on doing this to my 94 pickup. Eastwood makes great products! also comes in gloss
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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How much does the tailgate go for?
?????
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 07:05 PM
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Before you get that crack fixed, you may want to consider spraying water through the frame to clean out the inside. My 86 frame had a wheelbarrow full of dirt in there, I'm sure yours is similar.

I'm currently in the same boat as you are, except my frame is still buried in snow. I would recommend a small sandblaster, provided you have a fairly large compressor. Otherwise, a grinder with a wire wheel is your best bet. I like the Dewalt knotted cup brush wire wheel as it seems to throw less debris than a standard wheel. Either way, you'll burn through a couple of wheels, but it will be worth it.
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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I second that....I sprayed out my 82 and a LOT of dirt came out!!!!
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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Did a little work sun... Not as bad as I initially thought! But the other side is burnt out as well, looks like mud gets in there and there isnt a drain for the water, I'll be removIng the gas tank next and starting on that side soon.

Cleaned up, there's some good metal to weld to 



Painted to prevent quick rust, I work at the Ford dealer so I'm gonna use our ucoat when I get done and coat itresl good... Anyone ever filled the frame with spray foam?

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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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dip the entire truck in POR15
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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I've thought about it! Think I'm gonna spray the whole thing w rubber
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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that pic up there makes me want to remove my bed to service my fuel tank.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 03:36 AM
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I looked at your photos and based on what I read in your posts you want to keep and fix your truck. If this is the case then the best thing to do, and the cheapest in the long run, is to find a restoration shop that can dip your frame and body. This process removes all rust, dirt, grime, etc from inside the frame and gives you a real picture of the frames condition and a clean start on the frame repair. This process has been done for years on Antique cars and the process costs are reasonable when you start adding up labor costs involved with other methods (your time is worth money). When you are done with the frame repair, I would recommend Powder Coating the frame as it will last almost forever.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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you forgot to mention this process also removes all the PAINT which often times hides even more rust. i second the motion. if you lived near me, i'd point you to these folks

http://americanmetalcleaning.com/
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jartbaker
... Anyone ever filled the frame with spray foam?
I would be very hesitant to do that. I would think it would just hold any water in place and not allow it to drain away or evaporate, accelerating the rust from the inside out
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