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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Question Front drive line problem

so i put this big lift on my truck and now its 2 wheel drive

I can put the drive line i had made in but the angle is too steep. the drive line contacts itself when it turns if the truck is extended at all on the passenger side.

I guess i need a smaller lift. here are some pics to see how it fits in on flat ground. let me know what you think will fix my 2wd truck





i have larger wedges under the leaf pack but they are so large now that the alignment bar is rubbing my leaf pack

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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Options:

1. Lower the lift.

2. Install a high pinion front diff, raises the lower end of the shaft ~4" and that lessens the angle:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_TechInfo.shtml#DiffTypes

3. Move the front axle forward, longer shaft = less angle

4. Install dual transfer cases, moves the front output back 6.5", longer shaft = less angle

5. Install a single cardan front shaft, upper u-joint is shorter than the upper CV joint and that can help with the angles.

6. Cut and rotate the steering knuckles and spring perches:
- http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/rotated_housing/
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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take the wedges out from under the front leafs...my understanding is that its BAD to have any kinda "block" under the FRONT leafs as under hard breaking the axle will fold back twards the back wheels
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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No problem running shims up front to correct steering angles as long as they are steel shims and properly installed. But in this case, yes it looks like those shims are increasing the pinion angle on the drive shaft, so removing them will help relieve the angle problem. Usually shims are only needed to correct caster angle changes due to longer front spring shackles.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by peckm888
i have larger wedges under the leaf pack but they are so large now that the alignment bar is rubbing my leaf pack

it is hitting your tie rod. can you turn?
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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i can turn, turning all the way to the right gets tight. I would like to get another transfer case and put the smaller shims back in. the ones shown are 8 degrees the other ones i have are 6. i heard if i put shorter shackles in the front it would help my steep angle get smaller.

I do have another front axle housing. i could cut and rotate the spring perches, shock mounts and knuckles. although that would be one hell of a task for me. i have the equipment to do it but not the knowledge
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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let me know how this works out, what i did i droped the engine down and have the front of the tcase pointing down just a touch and have a bad boy jr on the tcase and single u joint on the front which just cuts it but i do need more work to make it better cutting and turning is the best way to go
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Why do you have so much lift? your signature says your running 33's. I am up about 5" and fit 36's without rub issues (4" TG springs on 6" shackles no body lift). You should lower your lift, I have minimal problems with my front d-line angle running double cardagan on a single case, 4cy diff. Now it could be better and I stress the ujoint at full droop. I did do some clearance work to the single joint with a grinder last time I changed out the u-joint to help with the binding angle at full droop.

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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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To me it looks like your shims are backwards... well ive always installed shims so the axle flange is pointed more at the Tcase.

Now looking through the pics the shim on the driver side is the correct way... and the passenger side is installed backwards

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