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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Hey Cebby, what do spool guns do, other than having the spool of welding wire on the gun?
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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914runner - it's a way to have a 2nd welding material like aluminum wire - so you can do both steel & aluminum or say stainless w/out swapping out spools & wasting wire all the time.

Cebby - so how's the new toys?!


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Hey Cebby, what do spool guns do, other than having the spool of welding wire on the gun?
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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914runner - it's a way to have a 2nd welding material like aluminum wire - so you can do both steel & aluminum or say stainless w/out swapping out spools & wasting wire all the time.
Not quite correct. Primarily it's because aluminum is too soft to push through a regular mig cable. The spoolgun is one way of solving that issue, another is a push-pull setup using a special gun that has motorized drive wheels in it.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Cebby - so how's the new toys?!
The activity by me in this thread is an indication. My business has been so hectic that I haven't done squat with any of this stuff. I need to have a couple of things cut on the waterjet for my hydro setup, so I've got a little leadtime before I start a-bendin'
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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Hmmm, beefy!!




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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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HA!
Makes my tube notcher look like a friggin toy - or a pile-o-junk!!! :cry:
maybe some day....
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Nice! When do you want to make some bumpers?

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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Nice! When do you want to make some bumpers?

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Soon....very soon! Your 4Runner is the guinea pig for 1st Gens. We'll make the one we discussed for yours, but I have an idea for a 1st Gen one also.

I guess the rear will need one too!!
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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O geez this is taking forever...

I little progress last night. Got the legs cut for the stand, and the arms mounted to the channel.

The main support is 6" ship channel, legs cut out of 1 1/2 x 2 rectangular tube, planning an expanded steel deck for "stuff" and posts to mount all the dies on.

I mounted up the stationary arms on the channel and am now trying to figure out where the static end of the ram should be mounted.

I plan to plate around the JD2 arm mount and will have a nice beefy mount for the end of the ram.





And yes, i know my garage is a freakin' mess, so zip it...
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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So have ya been using it much? I was thinking about getting one after I read some articles in a 4x4 mag.
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cebby
It's officially a business venture...
I got a 1st gen. 2wd truck if ya need a guinnie pig.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Cebby how you doing on this project
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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I picked up the top plate yesterday (3/8"th x 48" x 6"), so I should be able to get it together over the weekend. I'll need a couple of fittings, but for the most part it 'should' be pretty close to complete.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Cool, I was looking at one of my 4x4 mags and got to thinking about it. So I done a search and seen you was already on top of putting one together. About how much does it cost to get started on this type of venture. The reason I was wanting to know was parts for my 1st Gen. is far and few between. When I do find them they are freakin high as heck. Besides a man can never have enough tools. That mag was saying a manual would be about 360 or so, but it's going to need attachments also.
Might be a good investment!
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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I'll need to dig up my info. I bought 1", 1.25", 1.5", 1.75" and 2" dies. That's where the bucks are. I need to tally it all up with the steel and hydro parts. I'm hoping I'm under $1500.

I'll post a parts list.

DMG has a 1st Gen that is the unofficial guinea pig for 1st Gen stuff. Not sure if he knows that yet...
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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Quietly waiting for updates....
Might be starting a build up of my own soon. I have lots of projects I could use this on!! Guess that new tubing notcher will be in my future sooner than expected.
Keep those pics & updates comin!

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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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A step in the right direction:







The hardest part of this process (besides finding the time lately ) was drilling some of the holes. I have a drill press and sharp bits, but damn that steel is thick (and heavy!).

Here's the short of it so far:

- Bottom is 6" Ship Channel cut to 42" long.

- Top plate is 3/8" plate also cut to 42", notched to clear the bolt on the end of the ram.

- Stationary end of the ram has two pieces of ship channel welded together in an "H" and welded to the top of the ship channel. This is the same height as the assembled stationary part of the bender arms. (around 5 1/4" IIRC)

- Top plate will be welded to the "H" and plated/welded around the stationary end of the bender arms.

- Ram is attached with 1" Bolts. Bolt is sleeved at stationary end (sleeves welded to channel and plate)

The stand is next - it will have die storage, of course the pump, and a shelf for other stuff.

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Old May 19, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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She's got legs...







I was going to make a shelf underneath the pump shelf, but I like the idea of being able to stand in close to this thing if need be. I've decided to make the die storage kind of hang down from the shelf where I'll have pins welded to it to slip in the dies and followers. This will also keep the weight nice and low to balance when I have a heavy stick I'm bending.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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I have no idea what your doing ... but I like looking at the pics
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Old May 19, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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All in good time grasshopper....

Here's progress from tonight:










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