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Old 08-12-2007, 09:54 PM
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BV Carnage 8/11/07

Trail Length - 0.88 of a mile
Time it took us to get 5 rigs through it - 12 HOURS

Ranked as CO's 3rd toughest trail (Tied with Patriot - Indy), it's the last time I try a trail like that on 33" crappy bald tires. Those rocks are huge

Here's our entire trip thread
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Here's a couple of pictures and video of the trail

Jeff at the entrance



Aaron at the second obstacle


Jeff on the 2nd obstacle


Jeff - Entrance


Aaron - Entrance


Jeff on V-Notch


Jeff


Jeff at the exit













Me posing in front of my stuck 4Runner


Here's my before and after pictures























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Old 08-13-2007, 12:24 AM
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Wow, that looks pretty extreme. Great driving there and some cool rigs.
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That trail looks like it has some really big teeth... to say the least.

Can't believe that white 4Runner still has it's rear glass after some of those lines... especially the notch.

Great videos. Very impressive.
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Nice trail, and driving, but keep the peeps away from the winch cable while winching, last vid. Ruins a great day real quick if teh cable breaks.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cmadness View Post
Wow, that looks pretty extreme. Great driving there and some cool rigs.
It's as extreme as I'll get for a while

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That trail looks like it has some really big teeth... to say the least.

Can't believe that white 4Runner still has it's rear glass after some of those lines... especially the notch.

Great videos. Very impressive.
Big teeth and some huge rocks to climb over. There's 2 obstacles that are unreal, the V-Notch and the exit. Both scared me when we rolled up to them

We made sure to keep his glass away from those rocks. We did quite a bit of pushing and pulling of the strap.

Originally Posted by Symon623 View Post
Nice trail, and driving, but keep the peeps away from the winch cable while winching, last vid. Ruins a great day real quick if teh cable breaks.
Thanks for the heads up. He's running line, no steel cable.
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Originally Posted by Elvota View Post
That trail looks like it has some really big teeth... to say the least.

Can't believe that white 4Runner still has it's rear glass after some of those lines... especially the notch.

Great videos. Very impressive.
I was amazed to come out of that trail with not a scratch on my body paint. The tube work did it's job. It was a good time, but not high on my list of trails to go back to soon.
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Originally Posted by Symon623 View Post
Nice trail, and driving, but keep the peeps away from the winch cable while winching, last vid. Ruins a great day real quick if teh cable breaks.
As Volcom said it is a syn line so no whipping of the line. The winch line was more of a safety line and was helpful a couple of times for a nudge. It needed to be moved a couple of times to keep it out of the rocks and in line. Your right, need to be very careful...
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Was it crowded or was there carnage? 12 hrs seems like a long time even for that "trail"!

I think I would invest in some armor before bigger tires Volcom ... no matter how big the rig, the rocks are always bigger!
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Originally Posted by tc View Post
Was it crowded or was there carnage? 12 hrs seems like a long time even for that "trail"!

I think I would invest in some armor before bigger tires Volcom ... no matter how big the rig, the rocks are always bigger!
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We were the only ones on the trail luckily. It took a long time mostly because the trail isn't a couple of obsticals with a trail connecting them. Almost the entire trail is a continuous obstical.
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Originally Posted by tc View Post
Was it crowded or was there carnage? 12 hrs seems like a long time even for that "trail"!

I think I would invest in some armor before bigger tires Volcom ... no matter how big the rig, the rocks are always bigger!
We were the only rigs on the trail. Here's the full list of damage and Carnage.

Becky and Tom:
Scratched paint on drivers side fender flares (flare portion)

Aaron:
Heavy drivers side body damage (to the point the drivers door does not fit)
Tail hatch has some serious twicking
Front fender damage
Front Grille, headlight facia, and corner light

Eric:
Broken front short side axle shaft
Body damage to the right rear quarter
Broken left rear taillights
Dented window frame

Terry:
Broken left front hub
Crushed in driver door
Unknown engine problems after ramming into a very large rock

Don:
Made it about 50 feet when we realized that his front ARB did not engage

Jeff:
Scratched paint down both drivers side tube doors
Bent/Dented B-pillar
Cut valve stem

The broken hub and front axle shaft repairs took an hour and a half to fix.

Yeah, the truck now needs some armor. I have been waiting to figure out what I was going to do EXO-wise before I built up a front and rear bumper. I have the tubing bender in my garage, just no money or time to use it.

I'll be armored with bigger tires before I try that trail again
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Originally Posted by Ric View Post
I think my rig is ready for BV Carnage
Let me know when you want me to drive it through I'm good with the custom bodywork
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Jeff, you're 4runner is sick.... nice work
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Originally Posted by cubuff4runner View Post
I was amazed to come out of that trail with not a scratch on my body paint. The tube work did it's job. It was a good time, but not high on my list of trails to go back to soon.
I saw the tube door damage. Shows they are well designed and fabbed.

Do you ever swap the full doors back on, or is it now full time tube? If you do swap back, how do you manage all the electronic connections?
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Originally Posted by Elvota View Post
I saw the tube door damage. Shows they are well designed and fabbed.

Do you ever swap the full doors back on, or is it now full time tube? If you do swap back, how do you manage all the electronic connections?
I swap them back and forth. They both use the same hinges. All of the doors come with electrical plugs stock. If you remove the kick panel on the front there are two plugs you diconnect and the wiring all comes out. The rears have one plug.
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That is a bomber trail for sure.

Good driving and careful attention to keep that glass in tact. I have never seen a bodied truck go through there clean without many hours or huge effort.

Good driving, great trail.
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We ran the trail with people who had done it last year and all they kept saying was "I don't remember this obstical" or " we went through this with no problem" You could tell a very large storm hit the area and washed out a lot of debris just by looking at the area below the entry to the trail. After comparing some pics from last year you can see how washed out it is now.

V Notch last year


This weekend


Exit Last Year


This Weekend
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More pics






This was where I got the majority of my body damage.


It felt little tippy but wasn't too bad. After looking at the pictures, that's some crazy angle!


CubuffRunner navigating the exit.
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Those are some amazing before and afters.

Doesn't even look like the same trail. Some major erosion there. I can see how the ones who did it before would be confused now.

Even more impressive such "minimal" damage was incurred.

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Volcom... those are the stickiest bald 33's I have ever seen. That is such a ridiculous shot!!
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holy crap, that is a serious trail. I need a lot mroe expierence with mine before even attempting something like that.


Question for you guys, are most of you guys autos or sticks. I've been driving a stick for years but felt like a retard when we went through carnage boulder just being at the angles and working the clutch. Gona need some more seat time on some less wicked stuff before I go up there.
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Originally Posted by Avsguy33 View Post
holy crap, that is a serious trail. I need a lot mroe expierence with mine before even attempting something like that.


Question for you guys, are most of you guys autos or sticks. I've been driving a stick for years but felt like a retard when we went through carnage boulder just being at the angles and working the clutch. Gona need some more seat time on some less wicked stuff before I go up there.
Both Toyota's are 5 speeds with dual ultimate crawlers so they are basically like having an auto, double low, first gear, clutch out, and either idle up stuff or give it some gas

One Jeep was a 5 speed and other 2 were autos.
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