miguelitro

Anyone want to do this trail again soon, i'm getting Nature Deficit Disorder!

Toyopnoy

How about Saturday or Sunday morning haha? Is that soon enough? I'm down for a quick run this wknd. Let me know what you think. If anyone else is up for it, more the merrier!

99SR5

iTrader: (1)

that place looks like a lot of fun

miguelitro

we are doing it saturday but not real early, sorry i'm single and all that so

after thisI really want to do some AB runs Canyon sin nombre and pinyon to be exact.
Mike

ecchamberlin

Hey Mike and Pat
Since you guys are heading out to Carvacre there is an issue I had with a land owner while Brad and I were there last weekend.

At the very end there is a brand new white steel pipe gate that is kept open. When we got to this point we had to stop for a brush chipping crew. No big deal so we aired up there instead of out on the road so they could work hoping that they would let us pass when they got to a good break point. That didn't happen so I walked down to the crew and a rather large man comes to meet me half way. He said that he will be at it for a long time and that it is his private property past the gate. And that Cleavland Nat Forest ends at that gate. I explained to him that if I had known it was priv prop I would not have tried to go through it and apologized to him for trespassing on his land. He was kinda like oh well and I guess you will have to go back the way you came. I said okay and turned to walk back to my Runner. I am not sure if he respected my willingness to comply or what but he turned of the chipper and said that he would try to pull off to one side so we could pass. I thanked him and told him that I would plan for a longer wheeling day so I could go back the way I had come. He let us by and that was that.

Just thought you might want to know. I have never gone back down it so not sure how that would be. Seems like it would be okay though.

Tanto

Interesting info, Eric. I think that since that road is used by many other people to access their homes that it is a private road. Doesn't seem like it would be that much worse going down, except if there was a group going the other way on the trail since it is kinda narrow....

spaugh

I would like to go out again. If you guys are going, can you give me a PM? I live off of the 125 and 8. And like eric said, we should plan on going up and turning around. I think the exit trail will be off limits this time.
brad

RobT2k

I vaugely remember that...



Wait that wasn't it,same spot but wrong vehicle, oh yeah...


You really should have found a more original spot to put your truck on its side. We can do better than some jeep!

Say, there's this new trail called Devils canyon that would be perfect for you...

Tanto

Rob

RobT2k

Hey guys look at this map of the carveacre area in the cleveland national forest--
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/pr...ettlake-nw.pdf

I can't tell for sure, but it looks like it is all in national forest. But the end of the road is listed as "State/County/Non forest road"
It would be nice if this map could refute that guys claims.

ecchamberlin

Yes I agree. It was not the time to get into it with the guy so I played nice but in the back of my mind I think he was being protective of his neighborhood and trying to keep us out.

THe real problem is that when people finish that trail they haul ars down that road and it smokes/dusts them out. There are horse stables and home real close to that road so it probably pisses them off and they are tired of it. I don't blame them.

I did ask why if it was his property he did not have it posted as Private Prop No Tres. He did not answer that. I think he may own the property on either side of the road. I need to ask a ranger about this.

miguelitro

I am still going, there are 2 other rigs from TTORA, both goood friends of mine. you are welcome to join us but we dont know exactly waht time we are going. my buddies are coming down from temecula and one has to go to his boys soccer game first. i am figuring about 2 pm at the Carls Jr. on tavern road, but this is not a definate time. we area playing it by ear
if you pm'd me i replyed with my phone # so you can call me sat morn to get the final info

Mike

miguelitro

looks like it'll be around 12:30 1:00 at Carls jr but expect a little lagging.
mike

spaugh

are you still wanting to go further out into AB afterwards?

miguelitro

I agree with that though i did liike that tippy turn around the bush

by the end i'm ready to get back to the beach and go surf.

so when is the pinyon mountain run?

miguelitro

carveacre is still fun but you have to go back down, apparantl,y there was a tractor blocking a closed gate at t he top according to spa.
Mike

spaugh

the people who are building at the end of the trail have taken the liberty of moving a very large dozer in front of the gate so you can't get out. Going back down kinda sucked but at least i know I can run the trail both ways without any problems. BTW I had fun mike. We will have to go again soon. I'm thinking of a camping trip to AB or somewhere near by in a few weeks. I have to see how many recruits I can get to go.