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Old 07-17-2005, 09:11 PM
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Somewhat out there idea for a new type of SAS?

So i got to thinking the last week or so. I know a guy here who's very into landcruisers, and has an FJ-40, but his brother has an FJ80. What do people think of getting axles and suspension set up from a wrecked FJ80. the front axle is passenger side drop (good for 4Runners) and you get front and rear electric lockers, plus as far as i know, they are 8"diffs. Be pretty easy to regear and then do the swap. You'd have a nice comfy coil spring set up and if as far as i can tell, all you'd have to do is weld on the spring mounts, the shock mounts and the brackets for the front and rear links. Plus, these are wider axles than whats on my first gen, so you'd get a wider track.

Not that this is ANYWHERE in my near future, but i was thinking about it, and everyone i see doing swaps is usually going for leaf springs with D44's or toyota axles from early trucks. So, what do you think?
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it's already been done ...... many times.....
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How about this hybrid of a 4runner and 80 series Land Cruiser!
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Check out DarylD's 4runner. He's running an fj80 in the front with e-locker.

Just got to ride in it today. I really like the setup
Old 07-18-2005, 01:39 AM
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things to think about

-axles are much wider
-they don't use the 8" diff, its some weird number like 8.875 or something
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Front diff is 8", rear is the cruiser size
Old 07-18-2005, 05:21 AM
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Dang, thought i was being original. probably be way too expensive anyway. oh well.
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stock FJ-80s flex like poo. I would not want to do a straight swap for the factory suspension...
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Originally Posted by 44Runner
stock FJ-80s flex like poo. I would not want to do a straight swap for the factory suspension...

skinny pedal and lockers fixes no flex
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Well, i wasthinking a long travel kit for like an XJ jeep or perhaps something from Slee off road. But, this is probably way too expenisve and un feasable, consideirng all i have to do is weld on 4 hangers and cut off the IFS and get an axle off an early truck.
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Originally Posted by jimabena74
skinny pedal and lockers fixes no flex
it also lowers your COG after you cave in the roof in a roll over
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Not everybody is doing a leaf spring swap.

There are a few Tacos out there that have done the Coil-over SAS, and I'm working on my 4Runner Coil-over....
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The rear diff is not centered either.

Stock anything sucks. Links, long arms, etc. are what make the travel.

Up front is really cozy, no easy way to do separate coils, shocks and links without getting crowded.
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
The rear diff is not centered either.
Ahhh, you are correct. Okay, now this idea seems pretty bad. Not only expensive, but way too much work, with the rear diff off center. Seems the best way is just to copy what toyota did on the other first gens. I was thinking about D44's from a dead scout II that we have sitting around, but it turns out they have really wierd casters. Probably won't work. Oh well, this wasn't going to happen anytime soon anyway.
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Originally Posted by AxleIke
Ahhh, you are correct. Okay, now this idea seems pretty bad. Not only expensive, but way too much work, with the rear diff off center. Seems the best way is just to copy what toyota did on the other first gens. I was thinking about D44's from a dead scout II that we have sitting around, but it turns out they have really wierd casters. Probably won't work. Oh well, this wasn't going to happen anytime soon anyway.
Those could be good axles for you. Caster can be easily fixed....
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The entire FZJ-80 front suspension onto a 4Runner gig has already been done with great success. I'll have to find pics, but I think it was bjowett's rig. He followed that with a rear (and rare) 8" rear FF axle converted from DRW to SRW and disk brakes. Both axles ended up in the 63" WMS to WMS range.
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4runner4ever has put a rear FJ-80 axle in his 4Runner by cutting the long side and doing it the same lenght as the short one. The diff is centered now. You've pics in this same section.

David
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