e locker in 2nd gen?
02-19-2003, 04:08 PM
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e locker in 2nd gen?
i was just thinking if it is possible to get a e locker like the ones that come stock on some 3rd gen runners and put it on a 3nd gen runner? would it even be worth the hassle if it was possible?
02-19-2003, 04:19 PM
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Re: Not sure...
Originally posted by Cebby
I think this will help, but I'm not sure what diff you have.
Here's a link
I think this will help, but I'm not sure what diff you have.
Here's a link
02-19-2003, 04:30 PM
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Ya know, I'm not sure. I've probably read that article 10 times and I've just assumed it was for a 2nd Gen. I think he is retrofitting the elocker to the std. 8" V6 diff. which is what we have(?) I'm not sure though.
02-19-2003, 04:37 PM
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Many have done this.
Matt & Paddlenbike have both retrofitted the E locker into the older axles.
Check out Ken's (Paddlenbike) home page here.
http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/
Look for the write-up.
His rear end is the same as the 2nd gen 4Runners.
Matt & Paddlenbike have both retrofitted the E locker into the older axles.
Check out Ken's (Paddlenbike) home page here.
http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/
Look for the write-up.
His rear end is the same as the 2nd gen 4Runners.
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02-19-2003, 05:01 PM
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Not sure on the labor. I think I read somewhere you can get the 3rd mem from Toyota with 4.30's for $750?? Since you only would have the housing mods to worry about, I'd guess another $200-300?
02-19-2003, 06:03 PM
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this is toyota parts dude they put a e locker factory in 94-95 4 runners. it's a rare option. it's the old style 3rd member so it'll fit in all the 95 and older 8 inch rear trucks and 4 runners. thought i'd let you know that would be a real easy swap.
02-19-2003, 06:09 PM
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Re: e locker in 2nd generation
Originally posted by toyota parts dude
this is toyota parts dude they put a e locker factory in 94-95 4 runners.
this is toyota parts dude they put a e locker factory in 94-95 4 runners.
Salue
02-19-2003, 06:33 PM
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An 8" Toy housing is an 8" Toy housing is an 8" Toy housing, period.
It should be just like adding it to a 3rd gen.
Has anyone priced a complete e-locker swap with housing mods along wiring parts and installation? It makes sense to me if you have 4.30's to get an e-locker because those are common, but what about 4.56's and 4.88's?
Tell me more about the 2nd gen factory locker? I have never heard anyone mention this before and it really intrigues me.
It should be just like adding it to a 3rd gen.
Has anyone priced a complete e-locker swap with housing mods along wiring parts and installation? It makes sense to me if you have 4.30's to get an e-locker because those are common, but what about 4.56's and 4.88's?
Tell me more about the 2nd gen factory locker? I have never heard anyone mention this before and it really intrigues me.
02-19-2003, 06:50 PM
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this is jason i heard about it in peterson's 4 whell and offroad. the center section is bolts up the same in 4x4 toyotas from 79-95. some body should check with toyota dealer for part numbers. is peterson's they put int in the rear of a 85 solid axle truck they tried to put it in the friont but it would not fit actuator would hit leaf springs. it was about a year or two ago i heard about it. if i had one it would be in my 81 4x4 i use for a daily driver lol if i remember allprooffroad or one of those toyota specailty places told them about it they said in the article.
if i remember allprooffroad or one of those toyota specailty places told them about it they said in the article.
02-19-2003, 06:59 PM
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The e-locker was never available on a 2nd gen 4Runner. The only possible combination of axle codes are (a) 2-pinion open (4 cyl), (b) 4-pinion open (turbo/V6) and (c) 2 pinion, OEM Limited Slip. Option (c) was never offered in the U.S.
A Toyota 8" is a Toyota 8". Be it a 1979 diff or a 2002 4Runner. Keep in mind that the Tacomas *without* the e-locker use the 8.4".
The only variability is housing depth. The 4 cylinder housings are not as deep as the V6 ones and you will have to dent the back of the housing to accomodate an e-locker. My truck was the first V6 to get an e-locker and there was plenty of clearance between the "problem bolt" and the back of the housing.
A Toyota 8" is a Toyota 8". Be it a 1979 diff or a 2002 4Runner. Keep in mind that the Tacomas *without* the e-locker use the 8.4".
The only variability is housing depth. The 4 cylinder housings are not as deep as the V6 ones and you will have to dent the back of the housing to accomodate an e-locker. My truck was the first V6 to get an e-locker and there was plenty of clearance between the "problem bolt" and the back of the housing.
02-19-2003, 07:05 PM
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No, it's not a direct bolt-in unless the vehicle already has an e-locker, in which case.... ya. 
All the thirdmember (4cyl & V6) bolt patterns are the same from the first hilux up to the current 8" thirds (note some new rigs are now using a larger ring gear), and the e-locker replaces 3 studs on one side with 4 in different locations as well as a large notch to clear the locking mechanism. It's not that hard to do though, a little grinding, welding, drilling, and tapping. 
Basically you gotta make this:
look like this:
[pre hole drilling and tapping but you get the idea]
More pics here, writeup on the way if AOR ever gets my shock brackets to me... :mad:
All the thirdmember (4cyl & V6) bolt patterns are the same from the first hilux up to the current 8" thirds (note some new rigs are now using a larger ring gear), and the e-locker replaces 3 studs on one side with 4 in different locations as well as a large notch to clear the locking mechanism. It's not that hard to do though, a little grinding, welding, drilling, and tapping. Basically you gotta make this:
look like this:
[pre hole drilling and tapping but you get the idea]
More pics here, writeup on the way if AOR ever gets my shock brackets to me... :mad:
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Originally posted by toyota parts dude
your centersection should fit in the older truck. you can put the v6 center sectoin in the old 4 cylinder ones. the bolt patterns the same
your centersection should fit in the older truck. you can put the v6 center sectoin in the old 4 cylinder ones. the bolt patterns the same
02-19-2003, 07:14 PM
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i never knew about the bolt holes being different my bad. i dont remember them saying anything about that. what about the idea of swapping the whole rear with e locker out of a tacoma. you get the stronger ring and pinoin. you would just have to make up some coil spring perches and track arm mounts.
