toyNG

I am planning to install a set of TG sliders this week. It looks like I would have to either cut or bend the pinch weld in order to keep the legs from touching the body. Another option is to do a small body lift, like 1'' or 2'' at the most.

Right now I'm leaning towards doing the body lift. I'm planning on welding the sliders on, and thus know that if I want to install a body lift, now is the time since the sliders aren't yet on there. On the other hand, I don't really need the lift for anything other than clearing the sliders. So it might not be worth the $100. But then again, if I need the body lift sometime in the future, I'll be kicking myself in the butt for not installing it now.

any thought or advice appreciated!

904_runner

Well, if you were going to want a lift later then i would get the bl now.

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

IMO no need to cut or bend the pinch weld. No need for a body lift.

Yet if you are going to install a body lift, install it before you install the sliders.

toyNG

It seems like if I do none of those, then the legs will end up touching the body. Especially once I put a Hi Lift under there, or go over any bumps. But if it can be done the way you say, then that'd be optimal.

4Crawler

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Just leave sufficient clearance between the sliders and the pinch weld. I usually install mine with about 1/2" clearance (enough to slide my fingers between the slider tube and pinch weld):
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...l#Installation

dirtoyboy

you dont need a body lift to clear sliders......just cut the pinch seam and weld em up..... if you gusset them properly you should have no concerns about the sliders flexing into the body when they are hit or have the full weight of the rig on them

4rnr

Your concerned about sliders hitting the body....and you are buying HREW sliders?.....

dirtoyboy

They really arent that bad.....I have a set of TG HREWs (couldnt pass up 135 WITH shipping) I've bashed mine pretty hard with no giant dings (yet)

But yes....DOM is preferable

4rnr

Im not saying HREW is bad. It will do as it is intended but in my experiance (and this is anticdotal) HREW sliders are kind of like a disposal mantenance item like an alternator. Sooner or later, maybe way later....maybe never they will need to be replaced.

But on topic....they do bend a bit easier and will contact the body. I have had to do the "jump on the slider so my buddy can open his own door" dance a few times.

Back when I bought sliders (before I could make them) they were all DOM (AP). If I had to do it now it would be hard to pass up a set of HREW's for 100$. And many of my friends run them. But I have landed etreemly hard (enough to hurt myself) on my sliders so many times that Im very glad I have DOM.

toyNG

no offense taken at all. I got them for $130 including shipping. Couple that with the fact that I'm a broke student who doesn't do much rock crawling, and I think these will work fine for me. thanks for the input though!

dirtoyboy

Thats my view as well...I just needed something cheap and quick to save my already bashed rockers.....

They will need to be replaced at some point yes....

4x4mike

I've got the Stubbs sliders and no body lift is necessary for my sliders and body. The TG sliders are a bit bigger but I think a little shorter so YMMV. What you wouldn't want is them bending (can only take one hit) and the having them contact the body. It would be hard to fix or bend back. The other thing you don't want id for them to contact the body with hard vibration on faster bumpy roads. You might want to get the 1" BL if it's close.

4rnr

In my experiance when it does hit the body the damage is minor if at all due to the load being distributed across the entire rocker. that and the rocker is a very stought piece of body.

Once they bend up. just jumping on them usually put them back in place. Or strapping them to the "axle" of a floor jack, and jacking on the frame will move them easily.

SWPERIC

noob here. lookin at sliders for a 2002 4runner limited. what does DOM mean? do most ppl weld them on? what about skid plates? im looking for armor in the chicago area. is shipping outrageous for this stuff?

4Crawler

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Per:
- http://www.izook.com/spy/rock4x/rock4x.htm

Fink

Nope, no body lift is necessary.

Like has been said 10 times already, think about your plans for your rig before you start welding them up. If you plan on lifting it in the future, go ahead and do that now so you can be sure the spacing will be right.

I had the TG HREW sliders on my 4Runner and I could jack that thing up all day long with my Hi-Lift and it was fine. I had about 1/2" clearance (as Roger suggested) between the slider and the pinch weld.

Fink