brian2sun

Oh yeah, I didn't even think about that. Good call.

Mauzer

The stabilizer bar is NOT a weight bearing part, it is a TORSION bearing part. The reason that the links snap is due to the shearing stress of the bar twisting to keep the car on a level plane. That is why lifting the vehicle make it more likely to break the end links b/c you are messing with the factory geometry of the stabilizer bar (hence the relocation brackets) and adding more shearing stress to the bar which transfers to the links.

xxxtreme22r

all I know if if you put yur hand between the endlink and the swaybar you will think someone just dropped the whole vehicle on yur hand. In my mind torsion, transfer etc don't matter it's still weight.

Since weight is a big problem maybe I should say load bearing then?

xxxtreme22r

A another example of weight/torsion bearing would the ifs torsion bars. I think we can all agree the torsion bars are weight bearing and is the same concept of twisting force as the end links on a sway bar.

Mauzer

weight and torsion are two different things, think of it like this, put your arm out palm up and put some books in your hand...thats weight. Now, on that same outward stretched arm, have a buddy come up and give ya an indian burn...thats torsion (in simple terms).

xxxtreme22r

now take that same arm and instead of holding those books in your hand put them on a bar and hold the bar perpendicular to you arm. you are still holding the weight of the books.

X-AWDriver

I've broke three endlinks in the last 50k miles and awhile while back I broke an OEM one with less than 10k on it while off roading and decided when my budget allows I'll be replacing them with Wabbit's parts since I hopefully will never deal with that issue again.

OEM doesn't handle hard hits from repeated bashing on rocks and probably pothole hits do the damage also.

brian2sun

I think both of you guys are still correct. It's a twisting force, but that force comes from changing the weight distribution. The more weight applied, the harder the twisting force.

xxxtreme22r

thank you brian. that's the point I was trying to make.

Mauzer

Hahaha that confused me for a minute b/c my name is also Brian, but yeah, my point was just that its the torsion that snaps the links (in theory)

Deceptiwave

Good gravy! I feel on overwhelming "need" to upgrade now....

brian2sun

I think it's a wise choice to get the discos if it's a DD.

xxxtreme22r

I am not so sure about that though, I would need to see more breakage photos, because I know what a torsion break looks like.

Hoewever, I believe that the twisting from the sway bar combined with the movement of the control arm is what is snapping it kinda like you would bend a straw. The endlink itself doesn't get twisted like a torsion bar.

If you have ever broken a drill bit or a torsion bar you would know what a torsion break looks like.

Deceptiwave

Even if I never intend to disconnect them? I totally believe in overkill being just about enough for any situation, but is there a non-disconnecting link that would work as good? Or just go with Wabbits and forget about them?
Great! this website is gonna cost me more money!

brian2sun

The SB drop brackets that xxxtreme22r was referring to earlier might be a better choice for you.

Kregg

Go with the Disco's. Moar FleXXX!

Hahaha...

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

I just built six sets of these if anyone is interested.

rockota

Today's my birthday... free set?

The end links do not bear torsional stress unless they are over tightened. They bear (or should bear) force in a virticle plane...

Having said that, I just purchased lifetime replacements from NAPA... for the price, I should have just purchased Brian's... But this truck has no need for disconnects...

naksukow

I guess toyota thinks it helps since its an option on the new 4runner and land cruiser.

waskillywabbit

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Happy "Birf" Day!

I do end links as well as discos. You shoulda checked with me first.