superjoe83

if you guys want the most output, you should get 4300k, your loosing about 1000 lumens of light output from 4300k to 6000k, here are a couple of pics showing the difference, also the 4300k will be better in bad weather/wet roads

4300k:




6000k:



both:

deserttoy84

I got a really good deal on my 6k hid kit but If i could choose i wouldnt get anything but 4300K. It puts out a nice natural light. For looks the 6k def a good choice but 4300k will outperform 6k any day. most hid off road lights you buy only come in 4300k for a reason.

CamNub

You do get a drop off between 4300k and 6000k, but in my opinion, the lights are so much brighter than Halogens, the difference is pretty negligible (for city driving).

In my case, I wanted a little bit of blue so I could get the OEM hid "look".

By the way, true bi-xenons ONLY come in 6000k and 8000k. If you want the 4300k or 5000k, the moving Bi-xenons will be a good substitute.

Oh, and THANKS a lot for that picture SuperJoe, that's a really cool picture.

CamNub

1. Bumpin' Yota (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. hiloracerboy84 (H4, Bixenon, 6000k)
6. hiloracerboy84 (9006, Single Beam, 6000k)
7. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
8. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
9. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
10.

fattirerider

I was reading up on these and saw that they are illegal except the ones that come on stock. It seems that most don't have problems as long as they are aimed properly.

Also these go in to your existing headlights? Not the ones that bolt to the bumper?

Are projectors included? or do we need to buy these to keep stray light out of other drivers eyes?

aviator

The HID conversion kits can be illegal for on-road use in certain jurisdictions unless they came with your vehicle from the mfg. however they must first prove that you put them on, if you are the second+ owner then you can say "{shrug} they've always been like that"... or "thanks for telling me Officer I'll fix that right away"...
that being said so long as they are properly aimed and not bothering anyone you most likely won't be bothered at all...
These bulbs are designed to replace the Standard H4 type bulb in your normal headlight, if you have the "sealed-beam" type Halogens [like the pick-ups/tacoma] then you will need to install a conversion kit to allow you to use the H4 bulbs, these are manufactured by Bosch, Hella [euro-spec light spread pattern which is low to the left/front and higher on the right [to light street signs and help spot pederstrians] & APC [clear lens withe faceted reflector] if you are concerned I would'nt get the APCs the clear lens lets anybody see exactly what kind of bulb you have while the Bosch/Hella ones have a normal faceted lens which you can't see through.
Projectors are an entirely different kind of light which use the projector lens to focus the light, and are not necessary for this application.
As to keeping the light out of drivers eyes see the posts above re-aiming of the lights and you should have no issues at all.
Prost Aviator

Edit: took another look at your avatar if that is still your truck then it will be a simple [almost] plug-n-play install for you.

fattirerider

Yes it is my truck. Thanks again for the info, very helpful!

CamNub

1. Bumpin' Yota (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
6. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
7. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
8. JBSTRD (H4, True Bi-Xenon, 8000K)

We need 3 more people so we can hit this price break.

Edit: Oh and THANK YOU BIG TIME Aviator for helping answer questions.

JBSTRD

I already have a Vision-X Single Beam HID kit on my 98 Tacoma and it has been going strong for 2 years. I want to add a kit to my fiance's 4Runner as well.

I am interested in possibly adding an HID kit to my PIAA Fog Lights that use H3 bulbs. When people use the HID conversions for Fog lights are there any clearance issues. By this, I mean are the bulbs any longer or do they fit exactly how the halogen bulbs do? Also, would you run into any problems with the fog lights since you have to run more wires and a ballast to the bulb?

Thanks, I have not made up my mind yet, but I may be in for 1 set of H4 True Bi-Xenon and 1 set of Single Bulb H3's.

Jason

CamNub

If it's H3, it will fit. In the first run, a guy w/ an 06 Taco put them in his fogs without any issue.

As to wiring, it shouldn't be different from the headlights. Plug the HID bulb into the fogs and then connect the OEM harness to the HID ballast. If you have pics of the back of the fogs, I can give you a definate answer, but it should be very straight forward with the fogs.

JBSTRD

These are aftermarket PIAA 580 Fog Lights that have H3 bulbs in them. Here are some pics:

CamNub

Ohh, I thought you were referring to stock fogs. Let me check on that. Some fogs require H3c which are the short stubby version of the H3. I will get back to you on that!

JBSTRD

Is there anyone who can chime in that has done a conversion with HID into an aftermarket Fog housing?

Jason

CamNub

My only concern is the regular H3 HID bulb is too long. Both H3 and H3c have the same plug and fitment, H3c is just a shorter bulb. Still waiting on the manufacturer reply, I will post when he tells me.

JBSTRD

OK. For the time being, you can put me down for sure on one set of (H4, True Bi-Xenon, 8000K)

aviator

Cam here's a question for you that I don't recall seeing the answer for...
I went to the sylvania website and according to their info i rough calculated the output of a stock 45/65W head light at 703.92/1206.72 lumens low/high respectively.

What would the output be in Lumens of the HIDs?

FWIW they rate the life time of their LongLife bulbs at 850hrs/250hrs low/high at 12.8V supply.

superjoe83

I'm not sure about kit bulbs, but a new Philips D2S 4200k bulb puts out 3400 lumen, but the higher you go with color temp the lower the output, IIRC 6000k are about 2200-2500 lumen, also after the bulb reaches 500-1000 hrs it will loose about 15-25% of its initial lumens, and will color shift, which it will become more blueish, i will try to find a chart of lumen vs. color temp....

aviator

Thanks Joe

CamNub

Yes, I know it's bad english, but that's from their site.
The 4300k output seems to be about 3600 lumens.

1. Bumpin' Yota (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
6. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
7. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
8. JBSTRD (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
9.

geigerz2001

I am interested in getting a set. Ive got a couple questions:

1. Are replacement bulbs available if we need to replace them in the future?
2. Is there any chance of the kits failing and frying the cars electrical system?

Thanks