This is what happens when you buy skyjacker springs...
09-15-2010, 10:36 PM
#41
Skyjacker lifts come with pinion angle shims, and the springs are bolted directly to the perches anyways (with only the shims in there). There are no blocks, the springs would sit above the backing plates if there were.
K. I talked to my buddy today and Im goin out there tomorrow to help him put a body lift on his truck. BUT I asked him some questions
1. He said that is how the springs were shipped to him, he hasnt removed any leafs and no overload springs came on it(its the front).
2. That shackle is not welded to the frame and it can move, the picture just makes it look that way, ill take more pics when I go out there tomorrow.
3. That isnt a block its a shim to help his drive shaft angle.
and 4. Those u-bolts are on there right, he would know because they have 3 of those trucks out there at thier house.
Let me know if there are any specefic picture request for me to take tomorrow. Ill try to take a bunch.
1. He said that is how the springs were shipped to him, he hasnt removed any leafs and no overload springs came on it(its the front).
2. That shackle is not welded to the frame and it can move, the picture just makes it look that way, ill take more pics when I go out there tomorrow.
3. That isnt a block its a shim to help his drive shaft angle.
and 4. Those u-bolts are on there right, he would know because they have 3 of those trucks out there at thier house.
Let me know if there are any specefic picture request for me to take tomorrow. Ill try to take a bunch.
The problem doesn't have anything to do with Skyjacker springs. They really aren't made to flex all that well in the first place, but I wheeled with a guy who had PROPER bump stops for YEARS and his springs never ever lost arch.
09-16-2010, 04:39 PM
#43
how could one overload the front of a rig with cargo? theres no room for anything lol.
also most aftermarket front lift springs (skyjacker included) do not come with an overload spring.
and this could be a dumb question but, how could the springs be over extended?
wont the springs (regardless of lift height) hit the stops at the same point?(right when the springs get flat).
the only reason you would need to extend the bump stops would be if you installed longer shackles and lowered the front hanger correct?
i could be way off, its late lol
also most aftermarket front lift springs (skyjacker included) do not come with an overload spring.
and this could be a dumb question but, how could the springs be over extended?
wont the springs (regardless of lift height) hit the stops at the same point?(right when the springs get flat).
the only reason you would need to extend the bump stops would be if you installed longer shackles and lowered the front hanger correct?
i could be way off, its late lol
The other issue is with using stock shackles. Stock shackles only allow the spring to move back so much, wherein it stops moving back and begins to arch negatively. Longer shackle would allow the spring to move further back (closer to true flat) instead of bending 1/4 down the spring on either side.
09-16-2010, 05:00 PM
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Stock springs could travel past "Zero" from the factory, so it stands to reason that aftermarket springs would travel past zero as well. Any time you over extend springs, they lose lift. Its much more extreme with lift springs as they have much longer to travel as well. If anything, its a flaw in the factory design which allows them to travel past zero thus allowing them to "overflex" and flatten.
The other issue is with using stock shackles. Stock shackles only allow the spring to move back so much, wherein it stops moving back and begins to arch negatively. Longer shackle would allow the spring to move further back (closer to true flat) instead of bending 1/4 down the spring on either side.
The other issue is with using stock shackles. Stock shackles only allow the spring to move back so much, wherein it stops moving back and begins to arch negatively. Longer shackle would allow the spring to move further back (closer to true flat) instead of bending 1/4 down the spring on either side.
.. "if" the bump stops were setup correctly from the factory then they should work fine with a lift spring.yea i know about how the shackle can effect the spring.
thanks DC!
09-16-2010, 07:12 PM
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Thank you!
Stock springs could travel past "Zero" from the factory, so it stands to reason that aftermarket springs would travel past zero as well. Any time you over extend springs, they lose lift. Its much more extreme with lift springs as they have much longer to travel as well. If anything, its a flaw in the factory design which allows them to travel past zero thus allowing them to "overflex" and flatten.
The other issue is with using stock shackles. Stock shackles only allow the spring to move back so much, wherein it stops moving back and begins to arch negatively. Longer shackle would allow the spring to move further back (closer to true flat) instead of bending 1/4 down the spring on either side.
The other issue is with using stock shackles. Stock shackles only allow the spring to move back so much, wherein it stops moving back and begins to arch negatively. Longer shackle would allow the spring to move further back (closer to true flat) instead of bending 1/4 down the spring on either side.
09-17-2010, 04:12 AM
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so DC is short if your using lift springs with factory shackles its the right thing to do to extend the bump stops as I had mentioned earlier in this thread?
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