drguitarum2005

How do I tell if the previous owner did a drivetrain lift when he installed the 3" body lift (leave the arguing about this lift to another thread please)? what about raising the motor mounts and whatnot? Thanks!

tc

Flat crossmembers.

My guess is that it doesn't have one - it's not the most common mod out there...

MudHippy

Easiest way would be to pop the hood. Is your engine 3" lower than it should be? Then check the spacing between where the shifters route into the cab. Is there room to raise the tranny/transfer-case up 3" without runnin' into the body? If the engine is low and there's a big gap between the body and the tranny/t-case, then no drivetrain lift. In some cases the driveshaft will need upgraded due to increased angles, when you lift the drivetrain up. Usually to a CV style driveshaft, a different lookin' deal than stock. The flat t-case crossmember is a dead give away, though, for sure.

91_4x4runner

Or check for "aftermarket" mounting brackets. I would think they would've told you as that could be a good selling point. It isn't the easiest mod to do.

drguitarum2005

ill have to check that. seems i recall a pretty stock looking crossmember that comes below the frame somewhat, but im not positive. ill check the engine and shifters, but my 5spd shifter doesn't seem low in the cab or anything, its still at perfect arm length and height. and after the hundreds of times ive been under the hood, it doesn't look like anything is 3" too low when compared to the surrounding body. ill have to verify this though...

MudHippy

My shifters feel perfect to me, I gotta 3" BL too. It's a serious pita workin' on my engine, sunk down like it is, no drivetrain lift.

91_4x4runner

I *think* what he means is that if it looks to be "normal" height, it has been lifted.

People use body lifts alot of times on engine swaps to keep the engine "low" in the bay. Same principle applies here, in a way. If the engine seems to have been lifted back to its "normal" height in the bay (ie: stock height), a drivetrain lift has likely been performed.

If you take pictures, we can probably discern wether it does or not.

drguitarum2005

ill go out when im done with some work around here and take a better look and maybe grab some pics

drguitarum2005

alright i just went out and looked with a little common sense (and took pics anyway for yalls enjoyment) and i definitely dont have a drivetrain lift. my xmember is still below the frame, my interior shifter boots are way up on the shaft (i pulled them down 3" and they were snug and stock-looking) and the engine itself is low, its the peripherals that are mounted to the body that i was thinking of that aren't low. here ya go