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Old 08-29-2008, 11:12 AM
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Okay, so I blew my HG on my 3.0 and is not covered under recall.

I'm looking for a new engine, though I might still fix mine.

From what I can tell it'll cost me at least $500 or so to fix the HG myself.

I've found two running 3vze's locally for ~$500 OBO, and one 3.4 (no price listed)

The 3.4 comes from an auto taco, was wondering what the differences between that and a manual are, and weather it'll go into my truck. I have an '89 4runner 5speed.

Now if the 3.4 will fit, what should I offer for the engine?

I also found a '89 hilux shell that I might grab as well.. No more ugly truck fo' me!

I want my truck up and running as fast/easy/CHEAPLY as possible! thanks!
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Damn.. The shell is from a 2nd gen..

The third 3vze I found, the guy wants "2500-3000" for, just rebuilt 10k ago.. Sounds like A LOT for that.
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Also one of the 3.0s is from an auto..
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Fast easy and cheap- not a 3.4 swap
500 to do the HG yourself? That seems a little high unless you warped the head. Search- 3.4 swap and you will find enough info to make your head spin. Plus if you put a used engine in it arent you running the risk of more issues? Why not go through the 3.0 you have and make sure every thing is right?
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from what ive read theres a bellhousing that will make your r151 fit onto that 3.4
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Originally Posted by gilby4runner
Fast easy and cheap- not a 3.4 swap
500 to do the HG yourself? That seems a little high unless you warped the head. Search- 3.4 swap and you will find enough info to make your head spin. Plus if you put a used engine in it arent you running the risk of more issues? Why not go through the 3.0 you have and make sure every thing is right?
Fair enough, as I said one of the 3.0s is newly rebuilt but he wants a ridiculous amount for it.

I also understand that the 3.4 swap wouldn't be the easiest/cheapest but well, but it'd be nice to do it since I plan on eventually doing everything else to my truck (lift, body, interior).

I've searched about the 3.4 swap and have done a lot of reading so far.. What do these engines go for usually anyway?
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I'm still not actually 100% sure its the head gasket, I just checked it out again, the oil is definitely murky but I'm not sure if that's just water or not.. Let's hope it is.. The rad was still pretty full so I have hope..
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What year is your truck?

Your current 5 speed should bolt up directly to the back of the 3.4 block. You will need a 3.4 flywheel, clutch, and pilot bearing, plus the throwout bearing from your 3.0.

The motor should more or less bolt straight into your truck after swapping your oil pickup, pan, and dipstick over from your 3.0. Not knowing what kind of truck you're dropping this into makes this only a good guess on my part.

The wiring would be the biggest hassle, as the auto computer will be looking for signals from the transmission. I'm sure there are guys who have done the auto 3.4 into manual 3.0 truck before. There might be a work-around, like fooling the computer into thinking it's in neutral. Your best bet, for ease of install, is to find a 3.4 from a manual.

The swap isn't hard. The end results are well worth it. It can be done cheaply if you do all the work yourself.
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Originally Posted by RobD
What year is your truck?

Your current 5 speed should bolt up directly to the back of the 3.4 block. You will need a 3.4 flywheel, clutch, and pilot bearing, plus the throwout bearing from your 3.0.

The motor should more or less bolt straight into your truck after swapping your oil pickup, pan, and dipstick over from your 3.0. Not knowing what kind of truck you're dropping this into makes this only a good guess on my part.

The wiring would be the biggest hassle, as the auto computer will be looking for signals from the transmission. I'm sure there are guys who have done the auto 3.4 into manual 3.0 truck before. There might be a work-around, like fooling the computer into thinking it's in neutral. Your best bet, for ease of install, is to find a 3.4 from a manual.

The swap isn't hard. The end results are well worth it. It can be done cheaply if you do all the work yourself.
Wiring would hopefully be easy, for me, I could build a computer from scratch (aside from silicon, and im not talking about putting together a PC).

However, I just put a brand new clutch in, doesn't really make me want to run out and go buy a new one.

My trucks an 89 4runner.
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Originally Posted by forbiddenera
I'm still not actually 100% sure its the head gasket, I just checked it out again, the oil is definitely murky but I'm not sure if that's just water or not.. Let's hope it is.. The rad was still pretty full so I have hope..
Definitely the gasket.
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