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Old 07-13-2006, 09:48 PM
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Can Google Mail be encrypted?

Just a thought. Anything I've tested out there can't do the job. Ideas?
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The only way I could think of (and haven't tried) to encrypt google mail is if you used an email client (such as Outlook) to encrypt the mail and send it through Google. Essentially, you're using your Google mail account as a POP3 type account (just as if you had mail just about anywhere else).

Of course, this would defeat everything I use Google for (super-sweet user interface, searching capabilities) because you're still using Outlook but you're using Google as the mail server.

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Here's one way:

https://mail.google.com/support/bin/...py?answer=8155

Using FireFox, you can install the GreaseMonkey extension and use this script. That's what I use.

Check this out also. I might need to check into that S/MIME extension.

Ever since I've learned how to take full advantage of Gmail capabilities, I've hated Outlook ever since. I then knew why Google offered POP in Gmail for free, because they knew not many would use it.

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Old 07-14-2006, 05:53 AM
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Better yet, use the CustomizeGoogle extension. It'll do everything GreaseMonkey will do, plus a LOT more. Plus, encrypting Gmail and GCal is as simple as checking a box.

So, I've been fooling with the S/MIME extension. I have a certificate and the latest extension installed, but the lock won't "lock". It's not "seeing" my certificate. I wonder if I didn't configure the certificate correctly when I applied for it.
Old 07-14-2006, 06:19 AM
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Another option is for you to use PGP, then paste the encrypted plain text into your mail.

Code:
 -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: PGP 8.1
 
qANQR1DBwU4DtlfqA6dkX4oQB/9aA0MtVvxCSlmzy9M6fD+p+ly5jtk5d89MM2vg
XOPKYOrhJ9YGcZ6X0unfbPp99VAMdkrWWUh2DVbECAlmdlFlBeZo9nIKHfAcK31+
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EEIeZ2XOfgVhyo8taO4xtXZliX27Pc+gWT13xvtIkwAm0M//B/424r/Zx/J+0Ar9
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1SjA3NiypgZc0ZiwIsS3niXJKij5n2yW7q/aorcOYpmU77sXdAyBh0bBT17TBQDX
NFNuRQeqdsgQ7RcSHmvLynKqJemxDbKI/1+0L57UnpH+FhVg0zxnA86XVmAhjMYi
tsfzzxdj0kwBq+/brJ6DEMawailKmhsYLg7LBsRsFZceYKMQ5qM7P6biSgco035N
clMcR0AGjerMVTwgUpb+wYXRFndl9mSddY0TXUuVyZe2i3pi
=xL7/
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
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Found the answer to my previous question about S/MIME not working:

You need the certificate of the person you are sending TO. When you view certificates and see a cert that is probably your own cert which is why it works when you send email to yourself. The most convenient way to get the recipients key imported is to get them to send you a signed S/MIME message. The extension will snuffle up the public key from the signature.
Kinda a pain.

So...

Originally Posted by WATRD
Another option is for you to use PGP, then paste the encrypted plain text into your mail.

Code:
 -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: PGP 8.1
 
qANQR1DBwU4DtlfqA6dkX4oQB/9aA0MtVvxCSlmzy9M6fD+p+ly5jtk5d89MM2vg
XOPKYOrhJ9YGcZ6X0unfbPp99VAMdkrWWUh2DVbECAlmdlFlBeZo9nIKHfAcK31+
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KjPyxqMG3kr3eQT0PVE9auQt5WF+sJMg/AA+EeZ3IJO1ij3ZbtTLQxKXTYtIwzC/
HhcSmbEr1eExs6Y/KoPKKpxA5UjBtbTJvz4q/AjJz1X8hK49iyKCv5TDl1fK/Kzh
wuobtAKjpzeaet9Opkb/efTcVd6ONUB2tRf6tklensxFPKL7R5UnFRz3a0fRWodA
1SjA3NiypgZc0ZiwIsS3niXJKij5n2yW7q/aorcOYpmU77sXdAyBh0bBT17TBQDX
NFNuRQeqdsgQ7RcSHmvLynKqJemxDbKI/1+0L57UnpH+FhVg0zxnA86XVmAhjMYi
tsfzzxdj0kwBq+/brJ6DEMawailKmhsYLg7LBsRsFZceYKMQ5qM7P6biSgco035N
clMcR0AGjerMVTwgUpb+wYXRFndl9mSddY0TXUuVyZe2i3pi
=xL7/
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
I wonder if PGP works with GMail? If so, how?
Old 07-14-2006, 07:24 AM
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It doesn't integrate, if that is what you are asking. The plugins work with Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express and some others.

However, since PGP outputs plain text/ASCII, it can be cut an pasted into any application that accepts ASCII, just like I did in my post.
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More info...

Gmail has built in Unicode encryption for outgoing messages. It's under Settings:



What is UTF-8? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8

Why should you use Unicode? https://mail.google.com/support/bin/...y?answer=22841

BUT... I'm not so sure Unicode is really for security or rather for compatability.

I also looked for a FireFox extension that would manage your PGP keyring, and came up with this:

http://www.neilturner.me.uk/2005/Dec...nsion_ide.html

But, a working alternative that requires using POP in Thunderbird (but can also be used in other clients) is here:

http://zricks.home.comcast.net/2004/...-solution.html

The only problem is, encrypting via S/MIME requires both parties to have a signature. PGP requires both to have a public and private key. Unicode doesn't, but might not display properly on the receiver's email client. Luckily, the most common clients will handle it just fine.

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