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the dirt cheap SAS........well close
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Im shooting to do mine for under a grand total, you got me beat i think!
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86 runner, rebuilt motor, egr block off, headman header, 3"bl, 33x12.5 m/t's. Lots of work wanted to do. limited skills, funds, time and drive. If you dont know where your going, anyplace will do..... |
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Join Date: May 2005
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How did you get so much for your IFS!?
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Hubs and a geared front diff with a True Trac.
Then add BJ spacers, not too bad at all. Looks good Peter. You still have Stockfields, right? At least this includes a locked diff.
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yep, stockers for now. CV unlimited sells some stock replacements that have a different hardening than the stockers for $20 each on ebay so i figure i can break a few before i upgrade to something beefier. im only running 33"s for now anyway. |
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the front spring hanger i built myself.
the shackle tubes that go through the frame, i sourced my own tubing. got a foot of it for $9 and that was more than enough for both tubes. the frame jigs i borrowed. shackles i made myself. the front springs are the stock rear springs with the bottom leaf from the stock springs that came with the axle. front driveshaft: i clearanced the stock IFS front CV: http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/cvmod/ and then built a square driveshaft. it works, and it was cheap and i can go 40 miles per hour or so before it really starts vibrating. |
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i almost forgot, orielly's had the brake line extensions (stock rear 85 brake hose) for $9 each and change.
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So are you already done with this? Where the heck is the buildup thread? Where's all the pics?
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axle fresh from the junkyard
hubs, bearings etc: started cleanup and paint the magical substance: getting close: putting the chevies in: IFS TRE vs chevy TRE done: |
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Hell yea get it done!
btw how much/where did you get your magical substance for?
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Chris Fischer 3D 85 4Runner SR5 | 33" BFG M/T on flat black rims | Chevy springs | Custom Grab cage with overhead cb mount | Custom fabbed center console | Freshly rebuilt axle with IFS hub/caliper swap | Rock Sliders | Lots more... In Colorado, Dig. |
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That's awesome. Glad to see that it can be done for cheap if you just buy from the right places.
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Dam that is cheap, I stopped counting at 3K. Great Job!
What did you do for a front driveshaft?
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it obviously can be done for cheap if you are willing to source/make alot of the parts yourself. Congrats on the low cost SAS.
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Jeremy, 94 4Runner Turbo Leaf Spring SAS front - Coilover 4link rear (starts December) / Supra Swap My Truck is featured on Supracharged.com - Home of the original Supra swap and Forum One of two things will happen, I will die, or the truck will be finished. I'm not sure which will be first. |
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thanks guys
the chem-dip i got at my local autozone. i usually just use spray cans of brake cleaner to clean parts, but $2/can adds up quickly. i bought this gallon can for $12 and it has a handy dip basket inside that makes cleaning parts a snap. read post #7 for driveshaft details |
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for instance: marlin crawler's SAS kit is arguably the best on the market and its $1300. by substituting: ford shock towers ($22) for shock hoops ($69) you save $47 gabriel shocks ($40) for bilstein shocks ($150) you save $110 rubber brake hose ($20) for SS brake hose ($60) you save $40 stock rear springs (Free) for marlin's front springs ($269) you save $269 = savings of $466 now, im not trying to hate on their kit. if i had the cash, i probably would have bought it myself, but being on a budget, i had to cut corners where i could without making it ghetto. if it was a trailer queen, thats another story, but since i drive it on the highway at 70mph, it needs to steer and stop under all conditions. people on this site have the tendency to say "you cant do a proper SAS for under $X,XXX." i say you can and you can do it without comprimising safety. Last edited by Napoleon047; 12-14-2005 at 08:55 AM. |
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Do you set up your own gears? Someone told me that the Ford shock towers can cause frame cracking problems, not sure why. ever hear of this? And, Really Nice looking truck!
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I really dig this and it shows what you can do on a budget.
That being said, you have a lot of resources and skill as far as making parts. Most people do not have that. Almost universally those who ask do not. Quite literally you are into the project for only parts, as in raw steel for the most part. I commend you for showing what a motivated and skilled swapper can do on a budget. For those going off the shelf, it is still possible, but parts like diff and the swap kit add up quick.
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who's steering arms did you use???how did you make the ierod and draglink or who did you buy it from....what size tube and bolts did you use for the shackle through the frame??
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i got marlin's forged arms when they first came out for $129/pair
the tie rod and draglink were made by a buddy with a lathe. 1-5/16" solid cold rolled rod. $2.90/foot it was $3/foot cheaper than 1-1/4" DOM. 7ft was more than enough. the shackle tubes are 1.5" x 0.156" wall DOM (1-3/16" ID). the toyota bushings use 18mm or 11/16" bolts. i did set up my own gears, but under professional supervision. you can often times have a 3rd geared for $150, maybe even less (assuming you pull it yourself). |
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just for fun:
marlin's spring hanger kit: ($195) (includes hanger, shackles, tubes, jigs and bushings) marlin's forged histeer kit: ($369) ford shock towers ($22) gabriel shocks ($40) rubber brake hose ($20) stock rear springs (Free) rotors ($80) marlin's flip kit ($49) ====================== $775 for a pretty much complete SAS kit lock rite and gearset: $380 install: $150 knuckle rebuild kit: $75 ============ $1380 i know you can take your rig to sonoran steel and have the front hanger and shackle tubes welded pre-sas for $200 or so. then you just have to cut off the IFS with a sawzall or whatever and bolt in the axle and leaf springs, drive it back and have shock towers welded on. so buy an axle for $100 and you have an SAS for ~$1600!! |
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add a high angle driveline for $280 and you are still under $2k!
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Also another cheap trick you want to widen your front axle without wheel spacers?
Basically use IFS wheel hubs use the solid axle bearings in them. Then drill the IFS bolt on pattern to the fj80 rotor bolt them on. Drill out the threads of the caliper mounts to the knuckle and mount the IFS caliper on the outside of the knuckle using grade 8 bolts. You have to take some material off the outside portion of the brake caliper and chase the caliper bolt holes with a drill bit depending what size grade 8 bolts you use or you can just tap the caliper bolt holes if you feel so inclined to do so. Volia widened front axle no wheel spacers. Old pic before hysteer: ![]() I have run mine for 7 months so far without issues. I did have problems with the calipers though they were reman calipers and I did blow the seals on the drivers side caliper and the passengers side caliper started to leak. Luckily they had a lifetime warranty so I just exhanged them.
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Do you have a part number for the Gabriel Shocks you used? Is the part number for the Ford shock towers you used: “E5TZ*18183*A”?
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