Possible future money hole

wormhole · 08-16-2008, 06:57 PM

Do to some recent vehicle troubles that I thought I had all got worked reappearing (

)and with a upcoming 1600 mile road trip coming up. I've almost decided to get a newer vehicle (I've been doing research for while). I had run by the toyota stealership yesterday and came across this beauty:

07 FJ Front and Rear Warn bumpers, Pro Comp Wheels, CB, 3" lift and etc. 8,xxx miles

Went by today to talk with a friend that works there and the vehicle had sold in less than a day.

They had another FJ same year but with out all the goodies and 48,xxx miles. Same yellow color and never been off-road. Both had rear-lockers (a must have

and then some). Sat there for about 2 hrs. talking with my friend and looking at prices and what not. If your a first time buyer finacing a car it sucks (Ive always paid cash, don't ask how, anyone want a 4runner) and is a hassle but once you've done it your fine the next time around. Test drove it and it sounded and ran fine, trade in on mine with 194,xxx miles sucks (I'll leave it at that). The bigger blind spot and smaller windshield would take some getting use to but overall not bad. Just unsure at the moment.

Went back and got some quick photo's

Out the door with trade and no money down 17,925. Good, bad?

***Corey*** · 08-17-2008, 07:38 AM

That is a clean rig.
I am not up on what they go for though.

I have had mine since July of '06 when I bought it brand new, and I jsut turned 17K I think on my vacation this past week.

What you need to look at too when looking at used ones is if you want a stone stock one, or one that has had some mods done to it.

FJs look killer with front aftermarket bumpers and a winch, but you also need the lift kit to support that much weight too.

I got $1.5K for the trade in on my '91 4Runner, not much, but I was happy to get something for it.

Those Pro Comp wheels on the first one are the same as mine, the 7089s.

sschaefer3 · 08-26-2008, 06:44 AM

Your 4Runner is 12-13 years old and it has a lot of miles on it. It is not a lost cause, it just needs maintenance. Which for a vehicle that old, you the owner really needs to do. It is not going to be economical to pay the dealer to track all the little stuff down on an aging vehicle.

That being said, if you don't have the time to track all that little stuff down, then a newer vehicle that will give you 10+ years before you get to this point again.

You have no clue how many countless hours I Have put into that red truck, making it right again. When people spout out that they are going to buy an 85, 92 or what ever, they line the "mods" list up but fail to realize the basic maintenance list is probably longer and more expensive. Things wear out, even Toyota Trucks.

wormhole · 08-26-2008, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

Your 4Runner is 12-13 years old and it has a lot of miles on it. It is not a lost cause, it just needs maintenance. Which for a vehicle that old, you the owner really needs to do. It is not going to be economical to pay the dealer to track all the little stuff down on an aging vehicle.

That being said, if you don't have the time to track all that little stuff down, then a newer vehicle that will give you 10+ years before you get to this point again.

You have no clue how many countless hours I Have put into that red truck, making it right again. When people spout out that they are going to buy an 85, 92 or what ever, they line the "mods" list up but fail to realize the basic maintenance list is probably longer and more expensive. Things wear out, even Toyota Trucks.

I agree. Alot of the maintenacne stuff has popped up as I have taken care of other maintenance issues.

I'm probable going to stick with my 4runner I have to much into it (with some more to come

).

wormhole · 09-07-2008, 07:40 PM

Might be going back on my word here for a green 2000 4runner with 100,xxx less miles than mine, already has an elocker and a few other things I had in mind for mine (would just need new tires and sliders)

Anyone want a 96 4runner?

wormhole · 09-09-2008, 08:01 PM

We will see how wise a choose this was on my part but with over a 100,xxx miles less than my 4runner I couldn't pass it up (I've put 50,xxx miles on mine in a year and half of ownership more than the previous two owners).

Plus, it already has the magic little button (grey mod search has begun

). The rear shocks will need to changed out shorty so a phone call might be made in the next little while.

I'll be sad to see my baby go its taken me to more places than I can image and has put with my crappie trail driving and that black paint is just so dang sexy

.

sschaefer3 · 09-09-2008, 08:16 PM

Swap the rear links and budbuilt over before you trade it in. The Stubbs HD-SKO are better than the standards.

As for gray wire. here you go:

http://www.sonoransteel.com/rear_locker.html

One little wire and a solderless tap.

wormhole · 09-09-2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

Swap the rear links and budbuilt over before you trade it in. The Stubbs HD-SKO are better than the standards.

As for gray wire. here you go:

http://www.sonoransteel.com/rear_locker.html

One little wire and a solderless tap.

Yep, already planned just got to fiqure out a better way to bend the buds back. I wonder if my brothers chevy pickup is heavy enough?

Selling this myself the dealer was going to kill me on trade because of the mileage and will need to sell it before I do to much.

Thanks.

sschaefer3 · 09-09-2008, 08:35 PM

If you want you can bring the skids over and use the 20 ton press. Just bring a 6 pack of good beer and knock yourself out.

111db · 09-09-2008, 09:01 PM

Hey I'll take you up on a deal like that!

sschaefer3 · 09-09-2008, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 111db

Hey I'll take you up on a deal like that!

10-4. Think air bumps.

Ryan · 09-09-2008, 10:17 PM

dang I wish we knew you had a press this week. My place is just a few miles away too.

sschaefer3 · 09-10-2008, 06:42 AM

I have a lot of tools. Hence running a fabrication shop.

Bighead · 09-10-2008, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

I have a lot of tools. Hence running a fabrication shop.

I guess you put out some okay stuff.

wormhole · 09-10-2008, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschaefer3

I have a lot of tools. Hence running a fabrication shop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bighead

I guess you put out some okay stuff.

wrench-a-thon

wormhole · 09-13-2008, 12:27 AM

Brought it home tonight,lets see if its sister will let it play.

wormhole · 09-24-2008, 07:37 PM

You guys don't know of anyone in Phoenix looking for a vehicle do you.

08-16-2008, 06:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri/Arkansas/Idaho/Utah/Yuma, Arizona Posts: 1,205	Possible future money hole Do to some recent vehicle troubles that I thought I had all got worked reappearing ( )and with a upcoming 1600 mile road trip coming up. I've almost decided to get a newer vehicle (I've been doing research for while). I had run by the toyota stealership yesterday and came across this beauty: 07 FJ Front and Rear Warn bumpers, Pro Comp Wheels, CB, 3" lift and etc. 8,xxx miles Went by today to talk with a friend that works there and the vehicle had sold in less than a day. They had another FJ same year but with out all the goodies and 48,xxx miles. Same yellow color and never been off-road. Both had rear-lockers (a must have and then some). Sat there for about 2 hrs. talking with my friend and looking at prices and what not. If your a first time buyer finacing a car it sucks (Ive always paid cash, don't ask how, anyone want a 4runner) and is a hassle but once you've done it your fine the next time around. Test drove it and it sounded and ran fine, trade in on mine with 194,xxx miles sucks (I'll leave it at that). The bigger blind spot and smaller windshield would take some getting use to but overall not bad. Just unsure at the moment. Went back and got some quick photo's Out the door with trade and no money down 17,925. Good, bad? __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T" Sold: 1996 Toyota 4runner, auto, 4x4, Bud Built front skid, Stubb Welding Sliders, SS #3, hella 500's and elocked rear axle Last edited by wormhole : 08-16-2008 at 07:54 PM.

08-17-2008, 07:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,819	That is a clean rig. I am not up on what they go for though. I have had mine since July of '06 when I bought it brand new, and I jsut turned 17K I think on my vacation this past week. What you need to look at too when looking at used ones is if you want a stone stock one, or one that has had some mods done to it. FJs look killer with front aftermarket bumpers and a winch, but you also need the lift kit to support that much weight too. I got $1.5K for the trade in on my '91 4Runner, not much, but I was happy to get something for it. Those Pro Comp wheels on the first one are the same as mine, the 7089s. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

08-26-2008, 06:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,468	Your 4Runner is 12-13 years old and it has a lot of miles on it. It is not a lost cause, it just needs maintenance. Which for a vehicle that old, you the owner really needs to do. It is not going to be economical to pay the dealer to track all the little stuff down on an aging vehicle. That being said, if you don't have the time to track all that little stuff down, then a newer vehicle that will give you 10+ years before you get to this point again. You have no clue how many countless hours I Have put into that red truck, making it right again. When people spout out that they are going to buy an 85, 92 or what ever, they line the "mods" list up but fail to realize the basic maintenance list is probably longer and more expensive. Things wear out, even Toyota Trucks. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

09-07-2008, 07:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri/Arkansas/Idaho/Utah/Yuma, Arizona Posts: 1,205	Might be going back on my word here for a green 2000 4runner with 100,xxx less miles than mine, already has an elocker and a few other things I had in mind for mine (would just need new tires and sliders) Anyone want a 96 4runner? __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T" Sold: 1996 Toyota 4runner, auto, 4x4, Bud Built front skid, Stubb Welding Sliders, SS #3, hella 500's and elocked rear axle Last edited by wormhole : 09-07-2008 at 07:41 PM.

09-09-2008, 08:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri/Arkansas/Idaho/Utah/Yuma, Arizona Posts: 1,205	We will see how wise a choose this was on my part but with over a 100,xxx miles less than my 4runner I couldn't pass it up (I've put 50,xxx miles on mine in a year and half of ownership more than the previous two owners). Plus, it already has the magic little button (grey mod search has begun ). The rear shocks will need to changed out shorty so a phone call might be made in the next little while. I'll be sad to see my baby go its taken me to more places than I can image and has put with my crappie trail driving and that black paint is just so dang sexy . __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T" Sold: 1996 Toyota 4runner, auto, 4x4, Bud Built front skid, Stubb Welding Sliders, SS #3, hella 500's and elocked rear axle Last edited by wormhole : 09-09-2008 at 08:17 PM.

09-09-2008, 08:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,468	Swap the rear links and budbuilt over before you trade it in. The Stubbs HD-SKO are better than the standards. As for gray wire. here you go: http://www.sonoransteel.com/rear_locker.html One little wire and a solderless tap. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

09-09-2008, 08:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,468	If you want you can bring the skids over and use the 20 ton press. Just bring a 6 pack of good beer and knock yourself out. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

09-09-2008, 09:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
111db Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 1,196	Hey I'll take you up on a deal like that! __________________ Jon *97 4Runner 3.4 4.88's * ARB Lockers F/R * ARB compressor * Sonoran Steel numba 1 * 285 BFG AT/KO * TJM 17 * BudBuilt Skids * Stubbs Sliders & BBQ sauce * Irbis out back * Various Electronic Gadgets**

09-09-2008, 10:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ryan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 122	dang I wish we knew you had a press this week. My place is just a few miles away too. __________________ 1986 4Runner SR5, Stock 22RE w/5speed, Rear Detroit Locker, Front LSD, 4:88 Gears, 4" Lift, New Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ 33X12.50X15 Tires on the way. Mtn Bike For Sale: http://www.yotatech.com/f110/cannond.../#post50888473

09-10-2008, 06:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,468	I have a lot of tools. Hence running a fabrication shop. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

09-13-2008, 12:27 AM	#16 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri/Arkansas/Idaho/Utah/Yuma, Arizona Posts: 1,205	Brought it home tonight,lets see if its sister will let it play. __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T" Sold: 1996 Toyota 4runner, auto, 4x4, Bud Built front skid, Stubb Welding Sliders, SS #3, hella 500's and elocked rear axle

09-24-2008, 07:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri/Arkansas/Idaho/Utah/Yuma, Arizona Posts: 1,205	You guys don't know of anyone in Phoenix looking for a vehicle do you. __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T" Sold: 1996 Toyota 4runner, auto, 4x4, Bud Built front skid, Stubb Welding Sliders, SS #3, hella 500's and elocked rear axle

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