who wants to get rid of the idler arm and centerlink?
10-21-2004, 05:57 PM
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who wants to get rid of the idler arm and centerlink?
and i dont mean an SAS
it seems the weakness in the IFS steering is mainly the idler arm, followed by a bent centerlink.
a standard tie rod between the two knuckles would not work very well because the suspension would be acting independently while the steering would try to tie them together.
so, after looking at the steering on a jeep (yeah i know) i thought why not? this is known as an inverted-y setup
this is on a long travel kit at full extension. on my stock IFS, no t-bar crank etc, the linkage would sit almost perfectly flat.
it seems the weakness in the IFS steering is mainly the idler arm, followed by a bent centerlink.
a standard tie rod between the two knuckles would not work very well because the suspension would be acting independently while the steering would try to tie them together.
so, after looking at the steering on a jeep (yeah i know) i thought why not? this is known as an inverted-y setup
this is on a long travel kit at full extension. on my stock IFS, no t-bar crank etc, the linkage would sit almost perfectly flat.
10-21-2004, 06:28 PM
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I don't think its that bad of an idea... my only thought is try and find common parts to do it with, so if something does break, you can run to your local parts store and pick up a new one. and hopefully at a cheaper price than a yoda idler.
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That is exactly what ford did on their TTB suspensions. After that dissaster of a front end, i dont know why anybody would coppy it. The main problem is that the suspension and steering linkage move in completely different arcs and put a lot of stress on the joints, and wears everything out quite fast. I personally think its a bad idea.
10-22-2004, 05:19 AM
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That is exactly what ford did on their TTB suspensions. After that dissaster of a front end, i dont know why anybody would coppy it. The main problem is that the suspension and steering linkage move in completely different arcs and put a lot of stress on the joints, and wears everything out quite fast. I personally think its a bad idea.
joez has a valid point.....after I looked at the angle the lower A arm goes thru....and the angle that the tie-rod goes....they are different which means when you hit a bump the wheels violently toe in then out. Not a good thing. Nice try though. ZUK
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10-22-2004, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by joez
That is exactly what ford did on their TTB suspensions. After that dissaster of a front end, i dont know why anybody would coppy it. The main problem is that the suspension and steering linkage move in completely different arcs and put a lot of stress on the joints, and wears everything out quite fast. I personally think its a bad idea.
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