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Old 05-25-2005, 07:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
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New Complete 2nd Gen. Lift Kit

We have had several request for a complete 2nd Generation 4Runner Lift Kit.We put together what we feel is a solid set-up that gives
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:23 AM   #27 (permalink)
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this is what i have:

Front:
performance products 1'' lift springs
daystar 2'' spacer

rear:
tuff country 2'' add-a-leafs

thats all i have on and its does really well on and off-road. makes good clearance for 32x12.5 tires with a little trimming. 33's could probably work too. i have flexed the AAL's, gone airborne a bit and they have not lost its lift. the 3 inch ones i had on before broke. they give a good lift, but they straighten out a bit and could break. the front performance products springs are nice. way better than stock springs. they have not lost its lift either. the only thing you dont want to do is use them with the revtek or tuff country spacers. makes a very stiff ride and bounces a lot. spacers that go on the very top of the strut are much better. hope this helps out someone.
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Old 06-14-2005, 06:46 AM   #28 (permalink)
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1982 1st Gen Pickup
4" procomp suspension lift consisits of 4" lift springs on front and block lift in rear
now sagging to little over 3" now.
1" RB body-lift
front axle widened using IFS hubs axle now 58"
rear axle widened with 1.25" wheel spacers now 58"
35x12.50 BFG MT KM tires on 15x8 3.5" backspaced wheels.

Front tires do rub under full compression even with 1" body-lift


Currently running rancho 5012's on the back like this / \.

I don't recommend the Procomp suspension lift it came with my truck but I wouldn't buy it personally.

The plan for my suspension is going to 63" chevy springs on back and rear springs on the front.
Info on 63" Chevy springs:
63" Chevy springs FAQ
I will be using Bud Built chevy spring hangers and a custom built rear shackle out of 3/8" 2" wide flatbar it will likely be about 7-8" long.

Here's a little info on the rear springs on front subject
Rear springs on front FAQ
A side not on rear springs on front you basically have to build your own pack and experiment to get the right combo you want.
I will be using a combo of leaf springs from a 85 2wd rear pack and my old 83 rear spring pack.
This will also address rubbing issues with the front wheel well since it moves the axle forward at least 1-1.5"
Also you cannot use the stock push pull steering with these either.
You must goto a hysteer setup.

Then I am adding the Ford F350 shock mounts and rancho 5012's to front as well.

Prices:

4" Procomp suspension lift - $513.99

Planned suspension going on:
Bud Built chevy spring hangers - $55
4ea Rancho 5000 5012 shocks - $160
RB 1" Body-Lift - $90
Junkyard not rusty good condition 2000 63 Chevy leaf springs - $120
U-bolt Flip kit for rear - $55
Budbuilt 8" shackles $40

Ford F-350 shock towers - $30
used 85 2wd leaf packs $40
Rear stock leaf pack - free
Budbuilt Banana Shackles for front springs $50

Sky-Manufacturing Hysteer - $413
IFS steering box - Got for free

Other stuff

4 ea 35x12.50 BFG MT KM tires $760
4 ea 15x8 Rock Crawler series 51 3.5" backspaced rims - $200
2 ea 1.25" wheel spacers - $110

Probably about $200-$300 in welding required for the spring hangers and shock mounts and mounting IFS box.

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Sky Manufacturing Hysteer from Roadlessgear.com
Sky Manifacturing.com
Bud Built
Rancho shocks
Procomp Suspension Lifts
Roger Brown Body Lifts
BF Goodrich Tires
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:39 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Front:
Alcan Leaf Springs
Currie Shackles
Dynatrac U-Bolt Flip Kit
10" Travel Bilstein 5150

Rear:
Alcan Leaf Springs
Old Man Emu Shackles
Man-A-Fre U-Bolt flip Kit
10" Travel Bilstein 5150



*Involved minor cutting & welding
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whats the price range on that last one
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it was so minor, it's really not even worth mentioning, is it????
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it was so minor, it's really not even worth mentioning, is it????
I almost left it off completely......

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Old 06-17-2005, 04:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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FRONT:

JD fabrication T-1 kit www.jdfabrication.com
Eibach 450# 16" coil springs
T-100 axles
Custom shock hoops and engine brace www.protrux.net
2.5"x8" swayaway racerunner res shocks and coilover kit
weld in IFS truss


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Deaver Tundra springs, perches and hangers www.kartek.com
12" Sway away race runner shocks
All Pro shackles

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Old 07-22-2005, 12:51 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Rancho 44044
Bilstein 14" Shocks & Using 98% of them.
Custom Shackles, Hangers, Shock Tower, etc.

Rear
Chevy 63" Leafs
ProComp 12" Shocks
Custom Shackles, Hangers, Shock Mounts, etc.

37x12.50 MTR's with a little fender trimming.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Tacoma lift basics from Customtacos.com
Pretty good place to start.

http://www.customtacos.com/tech/inde...v2&id=137&c=10
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Rancho 44044
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Custom Shackles, Hangers, Shock Tower, etc.

Rear
Chevy 63" Leafs
ProComp 12" Shocks
Custom Shackles, Hangers, Shock Mounts, etc.

37x12.50 MTR's with a little fender trimming.

WOW!!!!!!!!
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Bj Spacers
IFS brace
Rancho RS9000 shocks

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Chevy 63" springs
Black Diamond 12" travel shocks
Custom mounts, shackles etc.
All Pro U-bolt flip
homemade 1" blocks
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4x4Wire has a nice suspension review for 2nd and 3rd Gen 4Runners:

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Funny thing is I put that all togehter back in 2002. It is horribly out of date and we have found so much better stuff these days.

I actually "LIKE" the 2" ID Sway-A-Way's at that point which are complete garbage. Biggest waste of $700, bar none.
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Old Man Emu Coil/ Shock Info

ok, this may be a long post, but i got some information a while back on all the OME gear for a 3rd gen 4runner. the following is a long email train about it. some things ARB told me conflicted with what i had previously thought so, you may find it intersting. read it from the bottom up.

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From: Michael Tomczyk [mailto:Michaelt@arbusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:11 PM
To: 'Brian Pottenger'
Subject: RE: suspension questions

Well, i'm corrected on the 906's. They are still being made. I just talked
to the tech guys about it. The 906's are a heavier spring rate at about
220lbs. They are not as tall as the 890's.

Trim spacers in that truck can only be used for levelling out the truck left
to right, not front to back. They're 5mm each for the front and i'd say you
couldn't use more than 2. The rears are 10mm.

Biggest problem is the IFS and the shaft angles if you get too much lift.
Leads to bigger problems.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Pottenger [mailto:bpottenger@bech.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:58 PM
To: 'Michael Tomczyk'
Subject: RE: suspension questions


So if the 906's aren't being made any more it sounds like they wouldn't be
an option for me. If I went with the 890's in the back, you guys sell trim
packers to raise the front, correct? What size are they, and how many can
be used on the same spring safely? Thanks for the contact info in San
Diego.

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Bechard & Associates
12127 Kirkham Road, Poway CA 92064
858.391.2922 Voice
858.391.2925 Fax

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Tomczyk [mailto:Michaelt@arbusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:31 PM
To: 'Brian Pottenger'
Subject: RE: suspension questions

I believe the 906's aren't being made anymore. I don't have a reason for no
info on it, it just skips in my guide. I believe it's the same thing as a
stock spring.

Between the 880 and 881, yes, just length. You'd use a heavier shock to
allow for more weight.

By using the N91SC and 881 on a stock front end would be a little firmer
because of having a little more spring stuffed in there. To get the most
comfort, use the 880's on the front with the N91SC.

For the rear, it may sit a little higher than desired (compared to the front
end) if you go with the 890's and softer shocks. I can't see that it would
give you a problem, but it's not listed to work with it like you mentioned.
You'll always wanna pair up the springs and shocks as listed for the better
ride.

In San Diego, you can talk to Pro Gear at 858-571-1158 or Off-Road
Warehouse at 858-565-7792. Each of those 2 dealers of ours both sell and
install all of our products, including the OME gear.


Thanks,
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Seattle WA 98134
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From: Brian Pottenger [mailto:bpottenger@bech.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:20 PM
To: 'Michael Tomczyk'
Subject: RE: suspension questions


Wow, thanks for the quick response.

Currently the vehicle is stock, with the factory tow package and roof rack.
I really don't tow much (or at all), and I don't foresee adding anything new
such as a front bumper, winch, rear bumper, roof rack or tire carrier.

The info I had below on the spring numbers comes from various vendors
online, such as wheelers offroad, 4x4 connection, and xtremeoff-road. Looks
like they may have some incorrect information.

I have never heard or seen anything about a 906 coil spring, or of anyone
using one. Is there a reason you don't have information on it? Is it
basically similar to the 89x springs? If so, I would think its longer and
narrower then the 890 but has a lower spring rate?

It looks like the only difference between the 880 and 881 is the length, or
consequentially the lift. Would there be any adverse effects to using the
881 spring with the N91SC shock with a totally stock front end? For the
rear, would there be any problems with the 890 springs and the N86C shock?

Also, I have found a few dealers online, but none in my immediate area. I
live in San Diego, CA 92107. Could you recommend a dealer down here that
would have OME gear? Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards,

Brian Pottenger, P.E.
Mechanical Engineer
Bechard & Associates
12127 Kirkham Road, Poway CA 92064
858.391.2922 Voice
858.391.2925 Fax

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Tomczyk [mailto:Michaelt@arbusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:16 PM
To: 'bpottenger@bech.com'
Subject: suspension questions

Hi Brian,

What we have listed is almost the same as what you have listed to me, but
with one change. The 880's and 881's are for the front (light and heavy),
and the 906's, 890's and 891's are for the rear.

We'd be looking for a little more info from your end about what kind of
accessories you have or plan on getting for your vehicle. Bull bar, winch,
rear bumper, spare tire carrier, roof rack/cage, roll cage. These add up to
necessitate using a heavier spring set.

I'll just run thru the options that we list (that you've already seen) then
go thru the details of them each.

For the front.
Stock/light load (0-110lbs)
1.25" lift. Spring OME880 , shock N91SC
Heavy load (110-240lbs)
1.25" lift Spring OME881, shock N91SC or N91S for firmer ride

Rear
medium load
2" lift spring OME 906, shock N86C or N86 for firmer ride
Heavy load
2.75" lift OME890, shock N86
Heavy constant load (660lbs to GVW)
3.0" lift, OME891, shock N86

So the different lift for the back is when the car is not loaded, but once
the weight is put in, it'll rest closer to the 2" level.

Now for the tech info. Listed in order of diameter mm's, length mm's, #
coils, weight kg's, spring rate lbf/in.
880, 16, 365, 10.2, 4.7, 500
881, 16, 375, 10.2, 4.7, 500
906, no info here
890, 15, 435, 10.2, 5.7, 190
891, 16, 420, 10, 6.4, 210
892, 18, 400, 10, 8.1, 380

You can see the 892 is just not suitable for this. It would fit, but you'd
have fun getting it to do anything...

Shocks on the front are same length, different valving.
Shocks on the rear are the same length, except there is a softer shock
listed there (N86C) for medium use.

These springs are not progressive, although some for other model vehicles
are.

If you're not planning on rigging this thing out with any heavy stuff, then
you'll get a great ride, with a little lift, but capable of handling all
sorts of terrain.

Let me know any questions you still have, or if you need the name of a
dealer in your area.


Thanks,
Michael Tomczyk

Customer Service
ARB USA
20 S. Spokane street
Seattle WA 98134
1-888-4ARBUSA
http://www.arbusa.com
MichaelT@arbusa.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Pottenger [mailto:bpottenger@bech.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:40 PM
To: sales@arbusa.com
Subject: OME Inquiry from ARB Web

Hi,

I have a few questions about your Old Man Emu suspension products. I have a
stock 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4x4, and want to upgrade my suspension with
your products; I've heard nothing but good things about them. I'm looking at
your 880, 881, or 882 springs for the front and your 890, 891, or 892
springs for the rear. I can't find any statistics on these springs on the
internet. I got a copy of your literature delivered to me, but again there
are no specifics. What I would like to know for each spring is: the spring
diameter, the length, the spring rate, whether or not the spring is
progressive, and the anticipated lift vs. the stock spring. Also, for your
shocks, is there any difference in length between the firm valved and
comfort valved shocks? Right now I'm thinking of using comfort valved shocks
no matter which springs I get, if that is possible. Any other advice you
have would be appreciated as well. Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards,
Brian Pottenger, P.E.
Mechanical Engineer
Bechard & Associates
12127 Kirkham Road, Poway CA 92064
858.391.2922 Voice
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Front: 881(882 w/ winch) coil and N91 strut
Rear: 892 coil and N86 shock

All you need to know for a 3rd gen on OME.

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Front: 881(882 w/ winch) coil and N91 strut
Rear: 892 coil and N86 shock

All you need to know for a 3rd gen on OME.



The 881 is up there with the 2.0 SAW. Junk.

Tundra Coils. Nothing compres. Andy is the stud of the c