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Old 03-30-2005, 04:39 PM
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i'm finally getting rid of the sag in the ass of my '95 runner and i ordered the OME 901's which should give it a solid 3" over stock. my question for any of you who have done this, will the back end look too high compared to the front without lifting the front any? i debated between the 900's (1.5-2") and the 901's and figured i'd go with the bigger just cause they'll sag some after a while anyway. as of now i'm not planning on lifting the front any, but i guess i'll crank the t-bars a little if the back end turns out to be too high...
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hey how do you like your jardine exhaust??

Where did you get your OME springs from? how much?
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3" over stock in just the rear might look a little odd...but i might be wrong. cranking the t-bars should make it look better if its too high.The thing is that 4runners always looks like their a$$es are sagging bc the rear well is cut shallower than the front, its not only because the springs aren't big enough. I have 2" Pro-Comp springs in the back and it looks just about right. Be sure to have your brake lines extended too and you might need longer shocks, depending on where you take your truck. just suggestions..let me know how it turns out though. Also, I think i remember reading something a while back about the drive shaft coming into contact with the gas tank skid plate when the rear is lifted...but i think thats only during articulation ..you might want to research that out a little bit
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What is a better combination.....

Downey HD coils with Bilstien Shocks

or OME coils and shocks??

Anyone have any suggestions? and where is the best place to order this stuff if you live in canada like I do
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Who told you 3"?

Try 2".
Old 03-30-2005, 05:31 PM
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I got ome 901 springs installed on my 1994 4runner,at first it was way higher then the front,after a week or so the springs settled and i havent messed with my tbars its a little higher in the rear but looks good.
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i got the coils from wheeler's off-road for $135 and the guy there is the one that told me a solid 3+" from the 901's. i'm glad to hear that they settled a little though. i'm already planning on getting new shocks all around seeing as how i've still got the stock shocks that are 10 years old, plus with the lift i def. need longer shocks in the rear. i'm not gonna pay for bilstein shocks, i just don't think its worth it at this point. i'm just going with rancho 5000's for $39 a piece. i don't really care if the ride on road is a little rough, its a truck.

hill:the jardine exhaust is good, before i got it, i heard from a guy on here that it was too loud for him. i installed mine and could barely tell a difference from stock. the biggest difference though is in the gas mileage. with my auto, i'd never gotten more than 240 on a tank and the last two tanks since i put the exhaust on, i've averaged about 255 so there was a noticable difference.

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make sure you do something about thr porportioning valve for the rear brakes too. or the front will be doing all the stoping.
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maybe this is a noob question but will lifting up the back just a little really mess up the braking that much? and how do i go about adjusting the proportioning valve?
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i contacted wheeler's today and i've decided to go with the 900 (1.5-2") instead of the 901s. when i talked to the guy, he said they were talking last night after i placed the order, and were hoping i knew how much lift the 901s were really gonna give me. he said the 900s were def. a better idea and even with them i'm gonna have to crank the t-bar a little to level out the front.

note:he also said that brake lines and proportioning valve will be fine and there's nothing i need to adjust for the lift.

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I definately felt the difference in braking power when I installed the downey 1.5s without the LSVP bracket.

Use the bracket. If you use stock length shocks you don't need a longer brake line.
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Hey man. I'm just over in Westminster, CO. We should get together some time. I have a 93 4Runner with a 4" Superlift, and 33" Truxxs. It would be cool to get together and just talk shop. Also, I have a garage, and I just bought an air compressor and a couple tools. I don't have a welder or anything, but every little bit helps right. Just pm me and we can get together if you want.

Also, if you are looking at lifting the whole 4Runner a little, you could get the 901's and then get the 1.5" ball joint spacers. This will give your tires a little more room to move before hitting the body. Just a thought.
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robinhood, i'm using slightly longer rear shocks but i think the brake lines should still be ok. what exactly is the LSVP bracket? i'm not familiar with this
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The guy from Wheeler's didn't know what he was talking about. I got ~2.5" of lift from my 901's, and my back end was sagging real bad. It's sitting at about 14.8" from fender to rim. It was a little higher at first, but it's since settled a tiny bit. I would go with the 901's, instead of the 900's. Either one is a great choice, but if you're gonna be hauling crap in the back, or keeping the suspension set-up for a while, the 901's seem like a better choice.

The brake proportioning valve thing seems like a case-by-case thing, to me. After the OME install, I noticed no difference at all in the braking. I asked Scofco, since he has the same setup, and he said he didn't install a longer bracket, either. I did wonder about it, after reading Robinhood's write-up on the Downey's. Check his website, I think he has a picture of the BPV there.

Hill, OME springs and shocks together are awesome. They're designed to work perfectly together, and they do a great job of it.
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well i've already changed to the 900s and they should be on their way so i'm gonna go with those for now and see how i like them. don't have the money to go with the OME shocks so i'm goin with procomp ES9000s ($32ea.). i know they're rougher on road but i don't really care about a little rougher ride and they should be fine off-road. everything should be in by mon. or tues. so i'll def. get some before/after shots to post! Scofco's ride looks soo sick! it looks like a lot more lift than just the HD coils and cranked t-bar, but i love it!

hey randomness: how'd you do your all-red taillights? i really like that look and have heard several different ways of going about it

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I've been confused on this for a while. Are the 901's what would be comparable to the cruiser coils and the 900's what would be comparable to the downey hd's?
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No...the 901's are just the Heavy Duty coils, so they're a little stiffer. I doubt if you'd get any more lift from the 901's compared to the 900's. Maybe a little, but still, I doubt it.

NRM...the taillights were a really easy mod, and they look a thousand times better! I just masked off everything on the rear end and half of the sides, except for the rear turn signals, then with those cleaned well, I just sprayed a couple coats of Testor's Transparent Candy Apple Red model paint on there. I've done it to a few pairs of tail lights, and I've tried clear coats after the red paint, and it just messes it up, I think. Maybe it's just me, though. So basically, make sure you've got it all masked off and clean, then spray the red on. Best $3 I've spent on my truck Lemme know if you have questions...
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I think your yr may came with rear Anti-lock brake...see if you can get it to come on after you lift it. If you can't that means the rear brake is not working like it should. "Install the bracket" It's for your own safety as well as those around you.

I cut off my lever and use an adjustable screw/loop thing... I adjusted so the rear brake wouldn't lock up under hard braking at 30 mph.
See Roger Brown's page for info.. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspe...ortioningValve
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Anthony, I don't know if you were talking to me...what do you mean try to get the ABS light to come on? The loss of braking power should be noticeable right?
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