Which is the best SAS kit?

motocrossfan · 07-15-2006, 08:45 PM

I was wondering which kit is the best marlin, sky or all pro? Im looking into getting one, thanks

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SteveO · 07-16-2006, 06:52 AM

I think it would depend on your year of vehicle.

myota · 07-31-2006, 10:40 AM

I like my trail-gear kit.

westy44runner · 07-31-2006, 02:15 PM

They are all very similiar, and nearly identical and work fine. I like my All Pro setup, and have seen several other Marlin SAS kits and they look great as well. I would choose Marlin or All Pro, cant go wrong with either.

rockota · 08-01-2006, 08:11 AM

Not a fan of Sky's front cross-member, personally. I like Marlin's because he's Marlin and will always get my business. I had All-Pro's since it was on the rig when I bought it but I cut off the front hanger and replaced it with FrontRange Off-Roads to lower it a bit (cracked frame necessitated the work).

Personally, I like FRORF's hanger kit best. Then All-Pro's followed by the Marlin/TG design. For full kits, Marlin then AP.

reggie 00 · 08-01-2006, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motocrossfan

I was wondering which kit is the best marlin, sky or all pro? Im looking into getting one, thanks

Like it was stated earlier it would depend on your rig. I have done a lot of looking for kits. you can try this link it was the first one i read and my into to Yotatech.
link

I pretty much decided to use different parts from different manuf.

You can look @
All Pro
Sky manufacturing
Marlin
Trail gear
those where the ones i looked into and cherry picked.

You might find more info searching for SAS swaps.

Robinhood did a good one,4rnr did one, among countles others. Look at what they used/did and go from there.

Good Luck and Welcome to Yotatech

Chris_Geiger · 08-02-2006, 09:22 AM

Something to keep in mind is that the Trail-Gear kits included front diff armor, upper axle gusset, knuckle service kit, and wheel bearing kits. Only Trail-Gear included these parts with the kit.

Trail-Gear also offers free ground shipping, that can save you $100-$200 in shipping costs.

vegaskurt · 08-02-2006, 09:27 AM

Personally I would stick with Marlin or All Pro.

DN1911 · 08-02-2006, 03:30 PM

remember, just because a place sends you all kinds of other parts the many places don't, dosen't mean those parts are worth using. i think i would use All Pro, Sky's, or Marlins first.

AxleIke · 08-02-2006, 11:13 PM

its all the same, six, one half dozen, or the other...

get the kit that fits your budget, and go with what works.

Every company has its die hard loyal fans, and that means that the company is doing good by its customers. Some folks have been treated right by a company, and their loyalty stays there. That is exactly how its supposed to work, good customer service will get me coming back to your door every time. People like marlin or all pro because they've been around a while and folks know their service and quality

Trail gears kit is extremely competetively priced, but the free shipping is what would send me that direction. that is pretty key.

The kits are roughly the same. differences are in springs, you can get marlins with either a higher quality USA made spring, for a bit more dough, or a lower quality forign spring for a bit less, and as chris pointed out, his kit comes with a couple extras. Whether or not the spring makes a difference, some say yes, some say no, time will tell.

Choose the kit that fits your budget, and what you want to do with your truck

4rnr · 08-03-2006, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

Whether or not the spring makes a difference, some say yes, some say no, time will tell.

Time has told these usa springs and chinese springs have both been used for a long time! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CALL MARLIN, CHRIS, AND JON. ASK THEM WHAT IS BETTER AND WHY!!!!!!

but if you ask me...MARLIN better springs and thats the important part!!!

Intrepid · 08-03-2006, 08:16 AM

I have installed a Trail Gear front and rear kit. Their stuff is good quality, so I wouldn't worry about that. They are quick to solve issues and good with customer service. As Chris said, their kit comes with stuff the others do not, plus it is a bit cheaper, plus it is free shipping. You can't beat that.

hlpressley · 08-03-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrepid

I have installed a Trail Gear front and rear kit. Their stuff is good quality, so I wouldn't worry about that. They are quick to solve issues and good with customer service. As Chris said, their kit comes with stuff the others do not, plus it is a bit cheaper, plus it is free shipping. You can't beat that.

Trai Gear is good product without paying for THE name!

AxleIke · 08-03-2006, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr

Time has told these usa springs and chinese springs have both been used for a long time! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CALL MARLIN, CHRIS, AND JON. ASK THEM WHAT IS BETTER AND WHY!!!!!!

but if you ask me...MARLIN better springs and thats the important part!!!

I know what i think, and i know what chris thinks, and i know now what you think...the issues been hashed, rehashed, and beaten to death for so long it makes my head spin. Calling them is pointless, they aren't going to tell me that i should go shop at someone elses shop.

Honestly i think none of them has the best springs, but thats just me. For a kit, the USA's are pretty good. For the price, TG is pretty good.

Really the point is that these kits are roughly the same. There are differnces, but minor ones. In the end, price, reputation, and the little perks between kits are going to be personal choices that one has to make for ones self. Whichever one you go with you will get good quality.

4rnr · 08-07-2006, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

I know what i think, and i know what chris thinks, and i know now what you think...the issues been hashed, rehashed, and beaten to death for so long it makes my head spin. Calling them is pointless, they aren't going to tell me that i should go shop at someone elses shop.

Honestly i think none of them has the best springs, but thats just me. For a kit, the USA's are pretty good. For the price, TG is pretty good.

Really the point is that these kits are roughly the same. There are differnces, but minor ones. In the end, price, reputation, and the little perks between kits are going to be personal choices that one has to make for ones self. Whichever one you go with you will get good quality.

and I know now what you think

Talking to the dealer doesnt matter? Of course the dealer will blow some smoke. SOME people can see through it and determine what kind of people they really are.

AxleIke · 08-07-2006, 08:30 AM

I'm not dissagreeing with you. I too like the marlin kit best. I'm trying to offer the facts and not my opinion. Chris has chimed in on mulitple boards and has talked about the testing they do on the springs. I know alot of folks like the USA springs. I give my business to marlin becasue they have done more than right by me, sending me another part free of charge when i broke it during a crawler instal. I'll never shop elsewhere. That being said, for other folks, i don't think there is much of a difference between the kits. You seem to be saying the same thing, and that you recomend marlin because of the service. So get off my case.

4rnr · 08-07-2006, 09:26 AM

service, and I like their springs.

BTW Im not on your case

Sorry I just wanted to use the dancing deodorant bc im not sure when I would ever get a chance to that would make sense.

AxleIke · 08-07-2006, 09:56 AM

thanks, and sorry for the confusion, my earlier posts weren't very clear.

is that what that thing is? I always thought it was a raffel ticket or something. It finally makes sense

westy44runner · 08-08-2006, 08:13 AM

haha the dancing deodorant. i dont think that thing will ever make sense to post...but funny anyways.

Intrepid · 08-08-2006, 08:32 AM

Nobody got the "BAN" reference huh?

Flygtenstein · 08-08-2006, 09:14 AM

Marlin has always been good to me, on a crawler debacle, gears, etc. Right now it is hard to get them on the phone.

All Pro was the first in the business to mass produce it.

Trail Gear has unbeatable completeness and price.

I have a Mutt kit. Alcan springs, FROR hanger, Diamond axle, Fox shocks, just a bunch of pick and choose.

If you go with a complete kit, the surprises are cut down. When it is all made to work together, it will.

***midiwall*** · 08-08-2006, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrepid

Nobody got the "BAN" reference huh?

I did...

westy44runner · 08-08-2006, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrepid

Nobody got the "BAN" reference huh?

missed that one. good catch

titicaca · 10-28-2006, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DN1911

remember, just because a place sends you all kinds of other parts the many places don't, dosen't mean those parts are worth using. i think i would use All Pro, Sky's, or Marlins first.

alot of trail gears parts are the exact same as all pro, marlin and skys, hell skys' sells trail gear....

FredTJ · 10-28-2006, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

its all the same, six, one half dozen, or the other...

<SNIP>

The kits are roughly the same.

Ahhh, I wouldn't say that:

http://www.offroadsolutions.com/prod...86-95_coilover

That's how to do a SAS....

Fred

07-16-2006, 06:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
SteveO Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NM Posts: 1,848	I think it would depend on your year of vehicle. __________________ http://www.Hunt4Steve.com In the span of time, life is short. Our life is like a wave on the ocean, a flower in the field, here today and gone tomorrow. Know yourself, know where you will spend eternity, for NOTHING else will matter when you die.

07-31-2006, 10:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
myota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: slc, ut Posts: 23	I like my trail-gear kit. __________________ I have a blue truck with black tires

07-31-2006, 02:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	They are all very similiar, and nearly identical and work fine. I like my All Pro setup, and have seen several other Marlin SAS kits and they look great as well. I would choose Marlin or All Pro, cant go wrong with either. __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

08-02-2006, 09:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Chris_Geiger Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fresno Posts: 54	Something to keep in mind is that the Trail-Gear kits included front diff armor, upper axle gusset, knuckle service kit, and wheel bearing kits. Only Trail-Gear included these parts with the kit. Trail-Gear also offers free ground shipping, that can save you $100-$200 in shipping costs. __________________ Trail-Gear Inc. Toll Free (877) 4X4-TOYS Chris Geiger Photography

08-02-2006, 09:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
vegaskurt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 374	Personally I would stick with Marlin or All Pro. __________________ 1997 Limited 4Runner \| Stubbs Sliders \| Budbuilt Skid and Belly \| Homemade Bumper

08-01-2006, 08:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
rockota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 742	Not a fan of Sky's front cross-member, personally. I like Marlin's because he's Marlin and will always get my business. I had All-Pro's since it was on the rig when I bought it but I cut off the front hanger and replaced it with FrontRange Off-Roads to lower it a bit (cracked frame necessitated the work). Personally, I like FRORF's hanger kit best. Then All-Pro's followed by the Marlin/TG design. For full kits, Marlin then AP.

08-02-2006, 03:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
DN1911 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 53	remember, just because a place sends you all kinds of other parts the many places don't, dosen't mean those parts are worth using. i think i would use All Pro, Sky's, or Marlins first. __________________ 86' Turbo 4x4 - Work in progress Marlin clutch All-Pro Bed kit Sky rear shock mount 2001 4Runner - Wife's ride.

08-02-2006, 11:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,890	its all the same, six, one half dozen, or the other... get the kit that fits your budget, and go with what works. Every company has its die hard loyal fans, and that means that the company is doing good by its customers. Some folks have been treated right by a company, and their loyalty stays there. That is exactly how its supposed to work, good customer service will get me coming back to your door every time. People like marlin or all pro because they've been around a while and folks know their service and quality Trail gears kit is extremely competetively priced, but the free shipping is what would send me that direction. that is pretty key. The kits are roughly the same. differences are in springs, you can get marlins with either a higher quality USA made spring, for a bit more dough, or a lower quality forign spring for a bit less, and as chris pointed out, his kit comes with a couple extras. Whether or not the spring makes a difference, some say yes, some say no, time will tell. Choose the kit that fits your budget, and what you want to do with your truck __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

08-03-2006, 08:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
Intrepid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,711	I have installed a Trail Gear front and rear kit. Their stuff is good quality, so I wouldn't worry about that. They are quick to solve issues and good with customer service. As Chris said, their kit comes with stuff the others do not, plus it is a bit cheaper, plus it is free shipping. You can't beat that. __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

08-07-2006, 08:30 AM	#16 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,890	I'm not dissagreeing with you. I too like the marlin kit best. I'm trying to offer the facts and not my opinion. Chris has chimed in on mulitple boards and has talked about the testing they do on the springs. I know alot of folks like the USA springs. I give my business to marlin becasue they have done more than right by me, sending me another part free of charge when i broke it during a crawler instal. I'll never shop elsewhere. That being said, for other folks, i don't think there is much of a difference between the kits. You seem to be saying the same thing, and that you recomend marlin because of the service. So get off my case. __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

08-07-2006, 09:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	service, and I like their springs. BTW Im not on your case Sorry I just wanted to use the dancing deodorant bc im not sure when I would ever get a chance to that would make sense. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

08-07-2006, 09:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,890	thanks, and sorry for the confusion, my earlier posts weren't very clear. is that what that thing is? I always thought it was a raffel ticket or something. It finally makes sense __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

08-08-2006, 08:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 967	haha the dancing deodorant. i dont think that thing will ever make sense to post...but funny anyways. __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

08-08-2006, 08:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
Intrepid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,711	Nobody got the "BAN" reference huh? __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

08-08-2006, 09:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,246	Marlin has always been good to me, on a crawler debacle, gears, etc. Right now it is hard to get them on the phone. All Pro was the first in the business to mass produce it. Trail Gear has unbeatable completeness and price. I have a Mutt kit. Alcan springs, FROR hanger, Diamond axle, Fox shocks, just a bunch of pick and choose. If you go with a complete kit, the surprises are cut down. When it is all made to work together, it will. __________________ Ease on down the road.

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