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Old 09-11-2006, 09:35 AM   #1
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what else do i need for my lift?

hey there guys i am just wondering if any of you could recomend anything else that i NEED or at least SHOULD get when i do my lift...

i am going with the OME Firm setup front and rear, probably with the 4 crawler 1" BL with diff drop

i was wondering about front 3/8" spacers, are they needed or at least recomended with this lift to level it out better?

how about a panhard bar or drop bracket for that?

anything else i should look into?

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Search the Lift FAQ thread for better options IMO,like the Tundra lift.

You might also consider some beefier front sway bar quick disconnects and rear sway bar end links.

www.wabfab.org/products/sbel/qd.htm


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Old 09-11-2006, 10:27 AM   #3
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id definitely top out the front. it will rake some if you dont, if you like rake it does look good. but to level it out the 3/8 top outs are good

go ahead and do a search as well to get some highly qualified answers as Im not really an expert at this. thats just my opinion

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Old 09-11-2006, 12:35 PM   #4
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I would go with the Panhard drop bracket or a drop Panhard bar...

And i'm guessing this is for a 3rd gen 4Runner, So a Diff drop kit is good added insurance...


Steve at www.sonoransteel.com has everything you would need!!

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Old 09-11-2006, 02:10 PM   #5
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Differential drop kit is highly recommended for your CV's.

A panhard bar is not needed...alot of guys run without one, but if you do get one, your axle will line up alot better, otherwise your passenger side wheel will stick out about an inch more than the driver side. (mine does that) but with no real ill effects.

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Old 09-11-2006, 06:41 PM   #6
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When you say OME firm setup-are you going 881's or 882's up front?

Do you have an aftermarket front bumper or winch?

These will make a big difference in the amount of lift you get. If you do get 3/8 spacers-I assume you mean topouts? If so, you will need longer studs for the top plate.
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yah sorry for the confusion maybe... it is a 3rd gen runner, no aftermarket bumper MAYBE a winch in the future but not just yet...

i was talking about the firm 881/N91s and the 891/N86 setup.

so do you guys think the firm 891/N86 would go better with a Tundra coil and tacoma struts with (1) 3/8" top out spacer per side, rather than the 881/N91s?

or would it be too soft up front compared to the rear? i will be towing a nice bit so i want the rear to be fairly stiff.

will i need an extended brake line for the rear aswell?

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yah sorry for the confusion maybe... it is a 3rd gen runner, no aftermarket bumper MAYBE a winch in the future but not just yet...

i was talking about the firm 881/N91s and the 891/N86 setup.

so do you guys think the firm 891/N86 would go better with a Tundra coil and tacoma struts with (1) 3/8" top out spacer per side, rather than the 881/N91s?

or would it be too soft up front compared to the rear? i will be towing a nice bit so i want the rear to be fairly stiff.

will i need an extended brake line for the rear aswell?
Yes, extended brake line is very good insurance. I've had 881's, 882's, and I'm in the process of going to Tundra's. The 881's sagged too much, the 882's are nice now that they have some miles on them-but wouldn't be good for no winch and stock bumper. The 891's will work great for towing-that's what I have right now, although I'm about to change that also b/c I need a longer coil in the rear.

If you wheel your rig hard then the OME front struts are really too long when the swaybar is disconnected-wheel hard=get the shorter Tacoma struts.
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actually, they front OME's are too long with the swaybar connected if you wheel it - especially bad if you have a front locker.

my swaybar was CONNECTED when i grenaded both my CV's at tellico.
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i don't wheel very hard at all, my off-roading consists of mainly just rough, rocky roads, nothing i would need any super flex for or anything like that, the lift will be mainly for looks and to give more ground clearance and room for larger tires... but i still to be able to tow with it as said above
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Differential drop kit is highly recommended for your CV's.

A panhard bar is not needed...alot of guys run without one, but if you do get one, your axle will line up alot better, otherwise your passenger side wheel will stick out about an inch more than the driver side. (mine does that) but with no real ill effects.

Good luck.
Without the correct length Trac/PanHard bar, your shocks will wear off to the passenger side and the top studs will shear off over time, the coils will sit in the buckets crooked and over time sag sooner.

No one "needs" it because you can keep buying new shocks and coils every 2 years or so. Also driving over something like rail road tracks with be a completely different experience, corrected and non-corrected.

No one needs to fix this, but some people like to do things right. It upsets me to see people giving advice to something they have never tired or installed.

This should be referred to Robinhoods Mis-information thread. As we have someone giving advice who has no actual experience with the part.

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will i need an extended brake line for the rear aswell?
Like the Panhard bar, and Diff drop kit its just another part for the added insurance that your 4Runner won't fail somewhere and not get you home...

IMO check out Soroan Steel talk to Steve there He will tell you straight up what you do or don't need!!
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Listen to Steve he knows what he's talking about. He's tried almost every combination of lift for 3rd gens.
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looking very hard at the tundra coils w/ 1 or 2 spacers for up front now with the 891/n86 out back...

would you suggest the N91s or the tacoma strut for up front with the tundra coils?
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Dollars vs. headaches, I like steve's set up. IMO I think one of his lifts, which ever you like best, is the best value out there.
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Dollars vs. headaches, I like steve's set up. IMO I think one of his lifts, which ever you like best, is the best value out there.

Ditto
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Listen to Steve he knows what he's talking about. He's tried almost every combination of lift for 3rd gens.
i fully agree. i ordered his setup and could not be happier with the ride and drive and performance of my car.
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i agree with going with one of steve's lifts.

although i have no actual experience, from everything ive read over the past 6 months (3 as a non registered lurker) every one is extremely happy. im personally going with his system 1 in either oct or nov. it is by far the most awesome kit ive seen, read about, etc. he packages everything you need for it (as far as i can tell, never heard of anyone needing anything extra that would be unreasonable) and its all designed to work together to provide the best performance.

i know you arent going to need system 1, or 1.5. and starting out i wont either, but for the same price as some of the other more conventional level lifts, i have the peace of mind that says i can do pretty much anything with it, and it will be fine for whatever skill level im at. and if i need it, its nice to know its there.

again i have no hands on experience, just what ive read (EXTENSIVELY!!!) on these forums. guess the best way to put it is ive never seen a dissapointed customer.
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the thing is, i can't exactly purchase one of steve's kits... i am in Canada and for those of you not familiar with customs and shipping charges, something of that weight would cost me HUGE HUGE money... probably at least a few hundred bucks just to ship it here by the time i pay duty on it... i am not saying i haven't loked at steve's site and debated it either, because the kits look great and i would love to be able to purchase everything in one shot... i guess we'll see...

thanks for the respones
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go with the tacoma struts and ONE topout spacer.

the OME's are too long with ANY spacers at all and the tacoma's are perfect with ONE spacer on top.

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