FirstToy

I'm considering the GOODYEAR MT/R and BF GOODRICH MT

It seems like alot of people here like and use the MT/R which is why that's my first choice. I can get them for $170 ea (including mounting/balance/valves). That beats tirerack which has them for $166 (not including shipping or anything).

Opinions on the tires and how well they work? Obviously they will be on the road so do they do ok on the road?

I know this is well-worn ground but the search function is on the fritz and I'm buying tomorrow.

oly884

Take a look at ProComp X-terrains. I love them.

Good Times

Just to throw a curve ball....

I'm probably going to go with Duelers M/T

Billf6531

The big advantage of the BFGs is the 3 ply sidewalls. Ask your off-roading friends how many tires they've ruined due to cut sidewalls.

Darren

Both are great tires. MT/R's definitely have a tougher sidewall if you're going to be using them on the rocks, which is why they are the preferred tire for the masses over any other for a daily driven rig.

Expect 45,000-50,000 miles on them. The KM's might last a touch longer.

Road manners are good and relatively quiet for the MT/R. Work great in rocks, rain and snow. Less so on ice and mud, though they have done really well for me in the mud.

Go with your first instinct and order today!

Darren

That's funny, being as how both tires have 3 plies. However, the number of plies has nothing to do with the rigidness. It's the thickness that counts. MT/R's are tougher, that's been known for the 4 years they've been out.

I bet if you ask your friends (assuming an equal number of owners for each tire), more will have chopped their KM's. Still a great tire, though, I'm not disputing that.

calrockx

yep, what he said. i have MTRs and i love them. they can get a little slippery on a wet road, but nothing serious. they're pretty quiet, and offroad...well they're great. i haven't had any problems in the mud with these tires either.

jx94148

Those are the two best choices IMHO. MT/Rs do have stronger sidewalls. BFG KMs may last slightly longer and cost slightly less.

I'll go with MT/Rs again when the time comes.

I still will go with cheap ATs when I get around to taking my old wheels in. Cheap 30s for daily trips, 32s MTRs for trails and vacations.

FirstToy

Thanks for the info guys.
I looked at theProComps and Briges but I think the MT/R is for me.
Thats odd the MT/R doesn't do as well in mud. Doesn't MT stand for Mud-Terrain?
I am guessing that it is more slippery in the rain because of the big lugs and big spaces give a smaller contact patch on the road. Should I sipe them? I'm afraid I'll chunk a lug on rocks if I sipe.

There is a warranty that will cover all damage to the tire (including off-roading, nail, sidewall,etc) except it won't cover lug chunking off unless it is down to the cords. They say it's only cosmetic otherwise. Whatever, it's still a good deal I think.

They had the MT/R's on display and MAN! those lugs look meaty! This is going to be a huge difference so I'm looking forward to it. The stock Dunlops are barely cutting it ON road so you can imagine how I feel about them off road!

AznSky

I heard something that the MT/R's tend to not stay round? I think it was Gadget's experience with them (not 100% sure though)

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

Gadget has said I believe that he would not buy them again and that he had to have his MT/Rs cut down to get them round.

I have the Goodyear 285/75/16 MT/Rs and I love them. Compared to any other off-road tire, they rule, and if you take care of them and rotate and balance them like you should, you'll get 40K from them easy. As for road noise, folks who want an off-road vehicle with off-road tires that rides as quiet and handles like an Avalon are fooling themselves. Road noise is minimal so just turn up the radio!

EDIT: All four of my tires were less than 14 on the road force test using the GPS9700 last time I had them done. Anything over 16 is unacceptable and from what I understand if it is like 30 and a new tire it should be considered defective and replaced.



Brian

Flygtenstein

MT/R = Maximum Traction Reinforced

I have had problems with my MT/R's with balance and the like.

When aired down, they do sick things on rocks. I don't have enough power to really spin them in mud.

BFG sidewalls are notoriously weak. When I tore my MT/R in Colorado, it looked and felt substantial.

When it is time for new rubber, I think I will look elsewhere. Krawlers make a lot of sense and the price should be down by then.

I have had upward of a pound per side of the wheel and get balanced around once a month. My best Road Force from the magic machine was 40 something, IIRC. After trimming Gadget had some in single digits which is astonishing.

PoBoy

Ive had BFG MTs and Goodyear MTRs...I like my BFG's much more! Same experience with the MTRs, they wont balance and wear unevenly (regardless of rotating tires). If I was getting new tires though, Id look for something besides these two...there are better tires out there that arent made by the big tire companies.

justinh

i really like my Trxus m/t i am amazed at how smooth and quiet these tires really are.