explorer or 4Runner
08-12-2002, 01:33 PM
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Re: explorer or 4Runner
Originally posted by Retardriot427
whats better for off roadin, explorer or 4Runner
whats better for off roadin, explorer or 4Runner
You come to a Toyota forum and are asking this question in a 4Runner page...what do you think we will say?!?!
The 4Runner is hands down a better vehicle for offroading. No Ford is made for offroad. They are glorified mini-vans and can do only what they can do. 4Runners are built on truck frames and can do alot! Way better! :fireman:
08-12-2002, 02:13 PM
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I can't think of a single acronym for Toyota. I can think of at least 3 for Ford:
F***ed on Race Day
Found On Road Dead
F***ed Over Rebuilt Dodge
Any others?
F***ed on Race Day
Found On Road Dead
F***ed Over Rebuilt Dodge
Any others?
08-12-2002, 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by HaveBlue
I can't think of a single acronym for Toyota. I can think of at least 3 for Ford:
F***ed on Race Day
Found On Road Dead
F***ed Over Rebuilt Dodge
Any others?
I can't think of a single acronym for Toyota. I can think of at least 3 for Ford:
F***ed on Race Day
Found On Road Dead
F***ed Over Rebuilt Dodge
Any others?
08-12-2002, 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by NerfHerder-97SR5-
Can we ban this idiot?
Can we ban this idiot?
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08-12-2002, 02:32 PM
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That said, i'll now give my answer.
In addition to being among the best built and must reliable vehicles ever, Toyotas come with a LOT more ground clearance than Exploders. On Explorers the transfer case is electricly controled and the system is prone to shorting out if they get wet. My neighbor has a '98 Exploder and uses it to tow a boat. He is always has problems getting 4 wheel drive every time he puts the rear end in the lake. He hates that thing but he owes more on it than it is worth so he won't sell it.
The newest Toyota 4x4s also have electric transfer cases but they seem to be much more water resistant than the Fords. On the older Toys like mine 4 wheel drive is controlled by a lever. Pull the lever, the gears move, every time. There is no electronic sensors or computer functions that have to be satisfied and completed before the transfer gears will engage.
In addition to being among the best built and must reliable vehicles ever, Toyotas come with a LOT more ground clearance than Exploders. On Explorers the transfer case is electricly controled and the system is prone to shorting out if they get wet. My neighbor has a '98 Exploder and uses it to tow a boat. He is always has problems getting 4 wheel drive every time he puts the rear end in the lake. He hates that thing but he owes more on it than it is worth so he won't sell it.
The newest Toyota 4x4s also have electric transfer cases but they seem to be much more water resistant than the Fords. On the older Toys like mine 4 wheel drive is controlled by a lever. Pull the lever, the gears move, every time. There is no electronic sensors or computer functions that have to be satisfied and completed before the transfer gears will engage.
08-12-2002, 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by NerfHerder-97SR5-
That is his forum name jx....Would you prefer that I called him by sir?
That is his forum name jx....Would you prefer that I called him by sir?
08-12-2002, 02:52 PM
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I agree 100% with all of you who say that 4runners are by far superior. even my 2wd surprised me on things that my friend's lifted Ranger had more trouble than i did.
but... i always have thought it was cool that some of the older explorers had a solid front axle. Just my $.02
-Casey
but... i always have thought it was cool that some of the older explorers had a solid front axle. Just my $.02
-Casey
08-12-2002, 03:45 PM
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Just watch the commercials, toyota always show 4Runners offroad while Ford shows Explores with mom and the kids. They know that no Explores will ever go off-road. I agree with BTOWN, Ford SUV's are nothing but glorified minivans.
08-12-2002, 05:23 PM
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im asking because i have a 1993 Explorer right now and ive gone through a new brake system, new front suspension, new tranny, etc. nothing but problems
but, the explorer has a solid front axle
do 4Runners?
but, the explorer has a solid front axle
do 4Runners?
08-12-2002, 05:41 PM
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4Runners from '84 and '85 have the solid axle.
'86 on up to present have IFS.
Nothing wrong with IFS, unless you are into heavy duty rock crawling where you need the exta articualtion.
Many take the IFS rigs and torch of the front and do a solid axle swap.
Here is one such
post.
The nice thing about doing a SAS on a newer rig is the interiors are roomier, and often also have the V6 engines.
Another nicely done SAS on an '89 Extracab that belongs to Leonel is here.
I think you will find that most Toy owners have nothing but praise for their rigs. Old or new.
I am on my 3rd Toy now, and have not had any major thing needed to be done except for the fuel injectors pulled on my present rig and cleaned.
My previous Toy (may it rest in peace, or pieces) had 110K on it when it got totaled.
The only thing I did to it was change the oil, and the spark plugs 3 times.
And a front brake job at around 70K, never touched the rotors on it.
That truck was a work horse with a 22RE engine, and often pulled this tent trailer over steep mountain passes.
The '79 20R engine equiped 2WD truck I had first I bought with 170K on it.
Drove it for a few years, and only had to replace the head gasket.
Toyota's are very reliable, and easy to work on.
So you might say I'm sold on Toyota's reliability, and my next rig will be a Toyota also.
'86 on up to present have IFS.
Nothing wrong with IFS, unless you are into heavy duty rock crawling where you need the exta articualtion.
Many take the IFS rigs and torch of the front and do a solid axle swap.
Here is one such
post.
The nice thing about doing a SAS on a newer rig is the interiors are roomier, and often also have the V6 engines.
Another nicely done SAS on an '89 Extracab that belongs to Leonel is here.
I think you will find that most Toy owners have nothing but praise for their rigs. Old or new.
I am on my 3rd Toy now, and have not had any major thing needed to be done except for the fuel injectors pulled on my present rig and cleaned.
My previous Toy (may it rest in peace, or pieces) had 110K on it when it got totaled.
The only thing I did to it was change the oil, and the spark plugs 3 times.
And a front brake job at around 70K, never touched the rotors on it.
That truck was a work horse with a 22RE engine, and often pulled this tent trailer over steep mountain passes.
The '79 20R engine equiped 2WD truck I had first I bought with 170K on it.
Drove it for a few years, and only had to replace the head gasket.
Toyota's are very reliable, and easy to work on.
So you might say I'm sold on Toyota's reliability, and my next rig will be a Toyota also.
