Canadian Bumpers

***Corey*** · 03-14-2003, 08:28 AM

Just thought I'd drop a note here there is a guy in BC making bumpers.

http://community.webshots.com/user/zedex1100

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metal22lica · 03-14-2003, 08:38 AM

looks nice..i also found the tables enjoyable..

richeyma · 03-14-2003, 08:42 AM

Corey,

Your ability to find things on the Internet never ceases to amaze me!

If I had a Tacoma, I would seriously consider that one. Looks like a clean fit and I like how the winch compartment is designed. If you don't have (or don't want) a winch, you can't tell that there's a mounting point with the cover on.

Matt

***Corey*** · 03-14-2003, 08:57 AM

It was easy finding it.
He is a member over on ODW, and I saw the post.

He can make these to fit a variety of rigs, not just Tacomas.
I think I saw that he might tackle a 4th gen also.

But I do keep my eyes peeled for stuff like this.
You should see my bookmarks on my PC.
They'd probably stretch from my home to yours

airrikk17 · 03-14-2003, 09:55 AM

corey ,
i couldnt find a way to contact him via email , id like to chat with him about possibly building me a bumper for my t-100.

do you have a link to his email addy ?

airrikk17

ps- i got some qeustions for you about the seattle area , i might be moving. if you could link me ot your email so i can ask you some qeustions .

airrikk17

***Corey*** · 03-14-2003, 10:02 AM

I don't have his email, but hopefully he will see this post later.

My email addy is in my sig above.

delboy · 03-14-2003, 10:12 AM

Pretty tough lookin bumper! Don't think the tables fit on 2nd Gen 4runners though!

CTB · 03-14-2003, 10:29 AM

His email address is in the descriptions of his pics on webshots.

zedex · 03-14-2003, 01:45 PM

I just joined your forum. Thank you Corey for introducing me and my stuff to your site. I appreciate it very much. Heres my email.zenfab@telus.net or zedex1964@telus.net.

Ps.. If you want something built. Anything. No problem. Give me an email or call me. Im in B.C at 250 492 8149. My # is also on my bumper.

***Corey*** · 03-14-2003, 02:24 PM

Hi Zedex, the crowds here are always looking for new products out there in cyberspace.

I know a few with the '03 rigs have enquired about bumpers already.

zedex · 03-14-2003, 02:43 PM

yea.. I was just down at the lot lookin at some 03's. Thats one serious chunk of plastic on the front. I am itching to build a bumper for one but i need some incentive. If no one wants one then i wont build one. If i owned an 03 then it would be done already.

ChitRod · 03-14-2003, 02:48 PM

Are they available for 4runners? How much$$$$$$$$$

92runner · 03-14-2003, 02:57 PM

Zedex,

Welcome to the forum!

What have you done for the 2nd Gen. rear bumper? There are a few ideas floating around here like...http://www.trailseeker.com/4x4/mods/4runner/index.htm or
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~thefo...earbumper.html

Can you give us a ballpark price to make something like these bumpers?

Again, welcome and look forward to hearing your ideas, etc.

Scott

zedex · 03-14-2003, 03:06 PM

If someone seriously wants one, i will build a really nice one for $700 US. That would be a winch bumper similar to mine but. The stock turn signals would be incorporated in the design. I already have a design in mind for the 4runner.
My Tacoma bumper uses the stock turn signals as well so you dont have to mess with cutting wires and wiring in other lights. Bumper will bolt in with 0 mods. Just bolt it on and replug in your lights.
I will also wire the bumper for aux lights. Wiring would be loomed inside the bumper.
Im just curious. Does $700 sound reasonable. Or am i out of touch?

zedex · 03-14-2003, 03:19 PM

Hi 92. I havent done any rear bumpers. That bumper in your picture looks like a formed design. I cant do formed steel. Unless i start workin out big time. All my stuff i bend by hand.
I could mind you come up with a lower profile design. Its very difficult though if you dont have a vehicle sitting in front of you.
The skies the limit really. How much metal do you want.
It think if i were to build a rear for the vehicle in your picture. I would trim some sheet metal and make the bumper sleeker so it would have greater clearance. But still jackable.

atarinaper · 03-14-2003, 03:59 PM

i like the bumpers..... they look nice

Cebby · 03-14-2003, 04:52 PM

Welcome aboard Zedex. Nice fabbing skills. I see you do furniture also. I'm a furniture nut, but mostly wood. I can do metal brackets, but I don't have the equipment for much else. I have a buddy who's got all the toys though...

zedex · 03-14-2003, 05:04 PM

hi Cebby. Thanks.. I like wood too. Im also a cabinetmaker so..If ya want a bumper out of oak. Hey. Im game....
hmmmmm.........An oak bumper.......I LIKE IT!!!!!!!

Cebby · 03-14-2003, 05:19 PM

Maybe teak???

***Corey*** · 03-14-2003, 05:27 PM

There is a large untapped market for custom cargo boxes for the back of SUVs.

Mine is made out of solid red oak.

If someone could make a template and then custom build them, there would be a big market for them.

They could be made out of a cheaper wood than what mine is to put the cost factor down.
But I think they would sell.

HBoss · 03-14-2003, 05:29 PM

Hey zedex,

Nice bumper. In my opinion, if the bumper you are building has a concealed winch area and beefy bars up top like the TJM-15, $700 USD is a good deal. If it's just like the one shown w/no beefy bars and the winch wide open, I think $700 is way too much.

Are the bumpers you're building compatible w/airbags? And how much do they weigh in at?

Al

zedex · 03-14-2003, 05:49 PM

Hi Hboss. They all have an enclosed winch area. I could build some bars that bolt on. But i though....naaaaaa....Im not biffin kangaroos off the road...If the demand is there though. I will build some.
As for the airbag thing. If you get in an accident its going to crush. Of course i have never tested it and im never going to i hope.
I talked to toyota about the airbags. They said there are several criteria that have to be set for the airbags to go off. I saw no crush sensors on the front of my truck. I think its a deceleration sensor that will trigger the airbags.
And the bumper uses all stock bumper mounts. So those babies will shear if your in an accident.

You bring up an interesting topic though. ARB has a write up on their bumpers being airbag compatible. But does that include if you have a winch bolted in the bumper. A winch is a heavy chunk of mass. Will the airbags deploy when the winch is acting as yet another bumper.
I dunno.

Weight??? I really dont know. I would say 60...70 lbs?
Next one i build i will weigh it.

BigJohn · 03-14-2003, 08:54 PM

only 60-70 pounds? nice! i like that bumper i would not want the big bars up around the headlights, looks good as is but 700us is a high

zedex · 03-14-2003, 09:34 PM

Im thinkin $600 US. That might be better. The tacoma bumper im thinking 600. The forerunner would probably be more like $650. I havent built one yet but i know it would be more steel. And its alot more complicated.

HBoss · 03-14-2003, 10:31 PM

I only mention it to you in relation to your pricing, because you asked if $700 seems fair or out of touch. Generally, ARB w/bull bars go for about $650 and TJM w/bull bars go for between $700-$720.

The bumpers w/o bull bars up top (TJM-17 for instance) are only about $440, which is why I said $700 would be considered way too much.

Just hoping to help out a fellah canuck.

Either way, they are nice bumpers you're makin'!

03-14-2003, 08:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
metal22lica Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bradenton, Florida Posts: 993	looks nice..i also found the tables enjoyable.. __________________ SOLD??? Never 1990 Automatic V6 4WD SR5 4Runner Mods: Downey 1.5 HDs, Aisin Hubs, CD, CB with a 4' Firestik, Husky Liners, Maglite Mod, 2nd Gen Airbox Mod, K&N filter and a Smittybilt Brush Guard with 4 lights. Next: Rims? Shocks? Exhaust? PICS -Corey

03-14-2003, 08:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
richeyma Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Burke, VA Posts: 196	Corey, Your ability to find things on the Internet never ceases to amaze me! If I had a Tacoma, I would seriously consider that one. Looks like a clean fit and I like how the winch compartment is designed. If you don't have (or don't want) a winch, you can't tell that there's a mounting point with the cover on. Matt __________________ '91 4Runner 4WD SR5 V6 5-Speed (Owned since new) TJM Bull Bar; OME Springs, Shocks and Steering Stabilier; Wheelers off road steelies; 32x11.5 BFG MT's; Gorilla sliders; K&N Air Filter; Hella Headlights; Husky Liners; IPF 968 Lights; SAW torsion bars webshots

03-14-2003, 09:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
airrikk17 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: spokane, wa Posts: 566	corey , i couldnt find a way to contact him via email , id like to chat with him about possibly building me a bumper for my t-100. do you have a link to his email addy ? airrikk17 ps- i got some qeustions for you about the seattle area , i might be moving. if you could link me ot your email so i can ask you some qeustions . airrikk17 __________________ airrikk17 soon to be toyotaless. thanks for all the memories.

03-14-2003, 10:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
delboy Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 316	Pretty tough lookin bumper! Don't think the tables fit on 2nd Gen 4runners though! __________________ 1990 Hilux Surf 2.4 TD 4" Lift, 33 MT's,Locked in front! Lots more....

03-14-2003, 10:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
CTB Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: SC Posts: 1,218	His email address is in the descriptions of his pics on webshots. __________________ 1995 4Runner V6 4x4

03-14-2003, 08:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,018	It was easy finding it. He is a member over on ODW, and I saw the post. He can make these to fit a variety of rigs, not just Tacomas. I think I saw that he might tackle a 4th gen also. But I do keep my eyes peeled for stuff like this. You should see my bookmarks on my PC. They'd probably stretch from my home to yours

03-14-2003, 10:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,018	I don't have his email, but hopefully he will see this post later. My email addy is in my sig above.

03-14-2003, 01:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
zedex Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 398	Hi guys I just joined your forum. Thank you Corey for introducing me and my stuff to your site. I appreciate it very much. Heres my email.zenfab@telus.net or zedex1964@telus.net. Ps.. If you want something built. Anything. No problem. Give me an email or call me. Im in B.C at 250 492 8149. My # is also on my bumper. __________________ Zedex Last edited by zedex; 03-14-2003 at 01:49 PM.

03-14-2003, 02:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,018	Hi Zedex, the crowds here are always looking for new products out there in cyberspace. I know a few with the '03 rigs have enquired about bumpers already.

03-14-2003, 02:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
zedex Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 398	yea.. I was just down at the lot lookin at some 03's. Thats one serious chunk of plastic on the front. I am itching to build a bumper for one but i need some incentive. If no one wants one then i wont build one. If i owned an 03 then it would be done already. __________________ Zedex

03-14-2003, 02:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
ChitRod Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 153	Are they available for 4runners? How much$$$$$$$$$ __________________ ChitRod

03-14-2003, 02:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
92runner Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Kansas City Posts: 77	Zedex, Welcome to the forum! What have you done for the 2nd Gen. rear bumper? There are a few ideas floating around here like...http://www.trailseeker.com/4x4/mods/4runner/index.htm or http://www.home.earthlink.net/~thefo...earbumper.html Can you give us a ballpark price to make something like these bumpers? Again, welcome and look forward to hearing your ideas, etc. Scott __________________ 1992 4Runner SR5 4WD, 170k, Automatic, 3.0 V6, 31x10.5 BFG AT's, Aisin Manual Hubs, Airbox Mod, OME Stabilizer, ISR Mod, Downey HD's, Bilsteins (Rear)

03-14-2003, 03:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
zedex Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 398	If someone seriously wants one, i will build a really nice one for $700 US. That would be a winch bumper similar to mine but. The stock turn signals would be incorporated in the design. I already have a design in mind for the 4runner. My Tacoma bumper uses the stock turn signals as well so you dont have to mess with cutting wires and wiring in other lights. Bumper will bolt in with 0 mods. Just bolt it on and replug in your lights. I will also wire the bumper for aux lights. Wiring would be loomed inside the bumper. Im just curious. Does $700 sound reasonable. Or am i out of touch? __________________ Zedex

03-14-2003, 03:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
zedex Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 398	Hi 92. I havent done any rear bumpers. That bumper in your picture looks like a formed design. I cant do formed steel. Unless i start workin out big time. All my stuff i bend by hand. I could mind you come up with a lower profile design. Its very difficult though if you dont have a vehicle sitting in front of you. The skies the limit really. How much metal do you want. It think if i were to build a rear for the vehicle in your picture. I would trim some sheet metal and make the bumper sleeker so it would have greater clearance. But still jackable. __________________ Zedex

03-14-2003, 03:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
atarinaper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 189	i like the bumpers..... they look nice __________________ (RIP)86 4runner 4x4,5sp, Red, 22Re, LC engineering street performance header, new leaf springs. (RIP) 94 vw golf future truck- 81-83 toyota truck or 1rst/2nd gen 4runner/ pickup

03-14-2003, 04:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Welcome aboard Zedex. Nice fabbing skills. I see you do furniture also. I'm a furniture nut, but mostly wood. I can do metal brackets, but I don't have the equipment for much else. I have a buddy who's got all the toys though... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

03-14-2003, 05:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Maybe teak??? __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

03-14-2003, 05:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
zedex Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 398	hi Cebby. Thanks.. I like wood too. Im also a cabinetmaker so..If ya want a bumper out of oak. Hey. Im game.... hmmmmm.........An oak bumper.......I LIKE IT!!!!!!! __________________ Zedex

03-14-2003, 05:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,018	Speakin' of wood... There is a large untapped market for custom cargo boxes for the back of SUVs. Mine is made out of solid red oak. If someone could make a template and then custom build them, there would be a big market for them. They could be made out of a cheaper wood than what mine is to put the cost factor down. But I think they would sell.

03-14-2003, 05:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
HBoss Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,878	Hey zedex, Nice bumper. In my opinion, if the bumper you are building has a concealed winch area and beefy bars up top like the TJM-15, $700 USD is a good deal. If it's just like the one shown w/no beefy bars and the winch wide open, I think $700 is way too much. Are the bumpers you're building compatible w/airbags? And how much do they weigh in at? Al __________________ 1997 4Runner Ltd. Bilstein shocks, rear E-locker & riding on 32s. Mods Pics Tech articles, write-ups & more are available on my website. http://www.hboss.net/4runner

03-14-2003, 05:49 PM	#22 (permalink)
zedex Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 398	Hi Hboss. They all have an enclosed winch area. I could build some bars that bolt on. But i though....naaaaaa....Im not biffin kangaroos off the road...If the demand is there though. I will build some. As for the airbag thing. If you get in an accident its going to crush. Of course i have never tested it and im never going to i hope. I talked to toyota about the airbags. They said there are several criteria that have to be set for the airbags to go off. I saw no crush sensors on the front of my truck. I think its a deceleration sensor that will trigger the airbags. And the bumper uses all stock bumper mounts. So those babies will shear if your in an accident. You bring up an interesting topic though. ARB has a write up on their bumpers being airbag compatible. But does that include if you have a winch bolted in the bumper. A winch is a heavy chunk of mass. Will the airbags deploy when the winch is acting as yet another bumper. I dunno. Weight??? I really dont know. I would say 60...70 lbs? Next one i build i will weigh it. __________________ Zedex Last edited by zedex; 03-14-2003 at 05:51 PM.

03-14-2003, 08:54 PM	#23 (permalink)
BigJohn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 270	only 60-70 pounds? nice! i like that bumper i would not want the big bars up around the headlights, looks good as is but 700us is a high __________________ 2002 4runner - Mods - Dynomax exhaust, Airbox/amsoil. Piaa Extreme White 2 inch driving lights, Nokian Vativas, mickey thompson wheels

03-14-2003, 09:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
zedex Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: British Columbia Posts: 398	Im thinkin $600 US. That might be better. The tacoma bumper im thinking 600. The forerunner would probably be more like $650. I havent built one yet but i know it would be more steel. And its alot more complicated. __________________ Zedex

03-14-2003, 10:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
HBoss Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,878	I only mention it to you in relation to your pricing, because you asked if $700 seems fair or out of touch. Generally, ARB w/bull bars go for about $650 and TJM w/bull bars go for between $700-$720. The bumpers w/o bull bars up top (TJM-17 for instance) are only about $440, which is why I said $700 would be considered way too much. Just hoping to help out a fellah canuck. Either way, they are nice bumpers you're makin'! __________________ 1997 4Runner Ltd. Bilstein shocks, rear E-locker & riding on 32s. Mods Pics Tech articles, write-ups & more are available on my website. http://www.hboss.net/4runner

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