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Old 10-02-2004, 11:32 AM
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91 4Run - wont take freon charge.

MY OLD R12 SYSTEM IN MY 91 4RUN WAS STILL FUNCTIONING, BUT WAS "DECLINING IN PERFORMANCE"
I WOULD NOTICE A SEVERE DROP IN COOLING, BUT BY CYCLING THE A/C SWITCH OFF AND ON, IT WOULD START WORKING AGAIN (A LITTLE)
I DECIDED TO DO THE R134 RETROFIT.
EVAC'D THE SYSTEM, PUT IN A NEW DRYER, PUT THE RETROFIT FITTINGS ON, BUT WHEN I WENT TO ADD THE FIRST ESTER OIL / FREON CHARGE, THE SYSTEM WOULDNT TAKE IT.
IM ON THE LOW PRESSURE SIDE (SIDE WITH THE RUBBER HOSE), ENGINE RUNNING, A/C ON.
IVE DONE THIS RETROFIT BEFORE ON SOME OF MY OTHER TOYOTAS, AND HAD SUCCESS.
I DO REMEBER DOING WORK ON ONE YEARS AGO (R12 AT WALLY WORLD DAYS), AND I THINK THE SAME THING HAPPENED.
IF I REMEBR RIGHT, IT WAS THE "expansion valve", AND IT WAS A PAIN IN THE A$$ TO REPLACE .

THIS SOUND RIGHT TO YOU A/C GURUS? OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD PREVENT THE SYSTEM FROM ACCEPTING A FREON CHARGE?
Old 10-03-2004, 02:44 AM
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OOOPS! Sorry, it appears that I am yelling, but I have an injury to my left hand, which makes it hard to use, and type properly, so I just leave caps locks on normally.

Here's a pic of the injury - [Peice of glass broke while I was holding it]
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Old 10-03-2004, 04:10 AM
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Damn! Nice carnage!!!

Sorry I can't help, but my AC is out of R12 and I need it recharged too. I want to stick with r12 though as I've heard the r134a doesn't stay as cold. Why did you opt to make the switch?
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Originally Posted by sarasota4runner
MY OLD R12 SYSTEM IN MY 91 4RUN WAS STILL FUNCTIONING, BUT WAS "DECLINING IN PERFORMANCE"
I WOULD NOTICE A SEVERE DROP IN COOLING, BUT BY CYCLING THE A/C SWITCH OFF AND ON, IT WOULD START WORKING AGAIN (A LITTLE)
I DECIDED TO DO THE R134 RETROFIT.
EVAC'D THE SYSTEM, PUT IN A NEW DRYER, PUT THE RETROFIT FITTINGS ON, BUT WHEN I WENT TO ADD THE FIRST ESTER OIL / FREON CHARGE, THE SYSTEM WOULDNT TAKE IT.
IM ON THE LOW PRESSURE SIDE (SIDE WITH THE RUBBER HOSE), ENGINE RUNNING, A/C ON.
IVE DONE THIS RETROFIT BEFORE ON SOME OF MY OTHER TOYOTAS, AND HAD SUCCESS.
I DO REMEBER DOING WORK ON ONE YEARS AGO (R12 AT WALLY WORLD DAYS), AND I THINK THE SAME THING HAPPENED.
IF I REMEBR RIGHT, IT WAS THE "expansion valve", AND IT WAS A PAIN IN THE A$$ TO REPLACE .

THIS SOUND RIGHT TO YOU A/C GURUS? OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD PREVENT THE SYSTEM FROM ACCEPTING A FREON CHARGE?
Greetings,
Nice Pug! Did you try increasing the engine idle like 1500 or so? Try that it usually works. I retrofitted mine awhile ago and had no problems, but mine would not acccept a charge until I had the rpm's up to 1500 or so.
If this doesn't work, your expvalve needs to be rred like you said!
Good luck!
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