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Old 11-16-2005, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Siping results with BFG M/T's

I'm getting ready to order a set of BFG M/T's and I was wondering if I should consider getting them siped? I would probably only do the inner lugs as that is what most people I have read do and I would only do it to help with the wet traction...

What do you all think?

I've searched and found some here and there answers but nothing concrete..

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I always sipe mine:
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I have the BFG's and quite honestly they are the best mud tire I've ever used in the rain. It takes a pretty good amount of effort to break them loose in the wet stuff, I haven't siped mine and they are fine.
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Jonathan, I think you're one of the only people I've heard compliment the BFG's in the rain, lol. I had them on my old 2nd gen and I only got loose a few times, of course that was with the 3.0, lol.

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Depending on your amount of highway driving and 4wheeling, would aid in deciding to sipe or not. I tried it once with a set of BFG's, in the end, I found it was not worth the time and money spent. I don't do alot of highway driving in my 4x4 vehicle and I usually ended up tearing up the tire before it wore out. Truckers sipe their tires to reduce heat build up and prolong tire wear.
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I'll be doing more on-road driving than off-road driving for a while, more city driving than highway driving but I will have a few 2 hour there-and-back trips next semester when my girlfriends softball season starts up but thats really it.

So, for now I can see how siping would help because of the on-road that I'll be doing.

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Jonathan, I think you're one of the only people I've heard compliment the BFG's in the rain, lol. I had them on my old 2nd gen and I only got loose a few times, of course that was with the 3.0, lol.

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I've run Uniroyal MT's, Wild Country Mt's, the old style BFG MT's and my new BFG's are by far the best wet traction MT I've ever had. I drive to campus and there is a huge hill and the road is brick and not asphalt and my old MT's used to be like ice on that hill trying to go up and now even when I accelerate hard it is difficult to get the BFG's to slip. Running the right tire pressure is a big factor as well.
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I found un-siped, my MTs (33x9.50) woulf break loose easily in the rain, especially w/ a rear locker. Siped, you really have to force them to break free. Done properly, they will work fine on- and off-road, the key is to not sipe too close together and to keep the sipes about 1/2" away from the leading and trailing edges of the tread blocks. Hard to do that by machine, they just indescriminantly slice across the tread with a ganged knife blade. That's why I prefer hand-siping. Takes less time that taking the truck to a ship to have it done and costs nothing.
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Wow...well I wasn't even positive on going with the BFG's but I think all of that just sold me. If the wet traction isn't good enough stock then I'll sipe 'em.

More opinions would be great!

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Fink I gotta question for you, if you're not gonna be doing a lot of off-roading, why would you want to get MT's for the street? Just the looks? Cuz trust me, the gas mileage, noise, and tread wear will start to get annoying if all you're doing is driving on the street.
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When I hear wheeling I think, mudding or crawling and other hardcore stuff...I'll be doing trail riding and going to some pretty remote campsites around here and most of them can be pretty hairy. Not only am I going with the M/T's for looks, the roads around here have a lotta flint rock and are not maintained worth a , both of my parents have off-road/all-terrain tires on their cars because the stock tires on there cars didn't stand up to it at all.

My mom has the BFG A/T's and she's gotten several flats and my dad has the BFG M/T's on his Chevy and hasn't gotten a single flat.

So basically my reasons for going with the mud-terrains are, looks, camping, trails, ability to go off-road every now and then when I get a free weekend from work/school.

The noise won't bother me, my old 2nd gen was noisy as crap so even with the mudders on my 3rd gen it won't be as bad, I figure I'll only see about a 2-3 mpg drop and I'm prepared to deal with that. And if things go as planned, I will keeping my old tires and possibly getting another set of Limited wheels and then I will use those as my everyday tire and then if I need to go off-road I'll throw on the Muds...but we'll see.

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I found un-siped, my MTs (33x9.50) woulf break loose easily in the rain, especially w/ a rear locker. Siped, you really have to force them to break free. Done properly, they will work fine on- and off-road, the key is to not sipe too close together and to keep the sipes about 1/2" away from the leading and trailing edges of the tread blocks. Hard to do that by machine, they just indescriminantly slice across the tread with a ganged knife blade. That's why I prefer hand-siping. Takes less time that taking the truck to a ship to have it done and costs nothing.
What do you use to sipe them?
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If the wet traction isn't good enough stock then I'll sipe 'em.
Ummm... Unless you're planning to do it by hand, you'll want to make the siping decision BEFORE you put miles on them. Many shops won't sipe a tire that's been on the road. Check with the retailer first, or the shop that you would have sipe them.
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Haha, I was just reading something that said to get them done before they're mounted on the rig...I will ask around to the tire shops that do it and see what they say.

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For what it is worth, I ran BFG MT's on my Bronco for years, I never had to buy a set of them, because every year I would have to replace a tire or two do to sidewall damage. They do not, IMO, have a very durable, puncture resistant sidewall. I am also running MTR's on our 99 4rnr, and so far, I like them better. Granted, I am not doing near the hardcore trails in our 4rnr, that I do in our Bronco. But, after two trail runs in the 4rnr, with a few rocks, there is no visible damage to the sidewalls. I recently "upgraded" to Swamper IROKs on the Bronco, and after one trip, they have proven to have a better bite and are more durable. The IROK's are radials, so they are tolerable on the occasional road trip.
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siping is wonderful, I'd do it as long as they wont void warranty on the tire.
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Reviving this oldarse thread to see if there is any more recent info on this. I am seriously looking at either the BFG AT's or MT's. There is a sale at Costo (expires Nov. 4th) on them, giving $60 off the set so I need to decide pronto. I really like the MT's for off road performance and looks. Those tires look mean compared to the AT's & I think that's what trail rig tires should look like. I drive about 7 miles each way to work and maybe an extra 20 miles per week, but don't forget I live in CO and the weather here is extremely unpredictable. I am thinking of getting the MT's and siping them. Any thoughts?
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regarding driving in the rain with bfgs, i used to live in Hilo (HI) where it rains harder than hell 300 days a year. never had problems.
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Which BFG's did you run? MT's or AT's?
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I never did get them siped, I got a set, ran them for about 1,000 miles and then sold them and got a set of Mickey Thompson MTZ's. The MTZ's grip quite a bit better than the BFG's, they're already siped so the wet traction is better and they have sligthly better sidewalls.

The new BFG M/T KM2's are really nice but they only come in larger sizes so that might be a problem.

If I were you though, I would look into the BFG A/T's, they're a solid tire...used really often on big commercial/construction HD trucks so they can handle quite a bit and they will last considerably longer than the M/T's. But that's just IMO.

I can't decide if I'm going to go with A/T's or M/T's on my Taco...the MTZ's just look so dang good...

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