InternetRoadkill

I've noticed that 16" tires are a lot easier to find than 15", so I'm thinking about changing rims. However, I'm wondering about the center hole. The holes in the center of the Toyota rims are sized to fit snugly around the hubs. None of the wheel places I skimmed specify the center hole size. So how does one find rims that fit a Yota?

MudHippy

No they aren't. Because Toyota rims aren't hub-centric, they're lug-centric.

Most Toyota 4WDs rims have a 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern(6 lugs, 5.5" measured from lug center to lug center, between 2 directly opposing lugs). Which is a common size for Chevrolet as well. Nissan too, but I've heard that their offset might be different than Chevy or Toyota(which I believe are the same).

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_TechI...l#Wheels/Tires

http://www.4wheelparts.com/aux_incl/bolt_pattern.html

InternetRoadkill

Actually, I do believe the Yotas are in fact hub centric. Check the rear axle. You'll find that it provides a dummy hub for wheels to ride on.

rokblok

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Wow, I read that wrong...

The rear drums/rotors would be hub centric, but the wheels are not. That's the center of the axle "dummy hub" is for. Some wheels may fit snug to the center, but the lugs are what centers the wheel.

MudHippy

You're flat-out wrong.

Why do you think you're able to install center caps on Toyota hubs/rims(between the hubs and rims)?

Because there's space for them...SINCE TOYOTA RIMS ARE NOT HUB-CENTRIC!!!

InternetRoadkill

Ummm, sorry, but no. Yotas are hub-centric. Check for yourself. The front hubs, the rear hubs, and the wheels are all 106mm. That's not a coincidence. That's on purpose. Even the center on the spare's rim is 106mm. Again, that's not a coincidence.

rokblok

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So I wonder how, since my wheels don't touch the axle center flange, that I don't have this massive vibration or broken lugs from all the wrong wheels relying on the weak-a$$ lug studs...?

The Toyota wheels may be 106mm, I don't know. But that's probably just to clear the hub/axle flange. I'm with Mud on this. I have seen and used many different style wheels on Toys, and never a one has had problems. How do you explain this?

bob200587

Since when are tires for 16's any more easy to find than for 15's?

InternetRoadkill

As I mentioned, it's not a coincidence that the wheel center holes and the hubs are all the same size and a close fit. You can choose to believe that or not.

If you've ever tried to find a set used tires for 15" rims, you're going to find that 15's are getting scarce. Most of the newer vehicles sold are using 16" or larger rims now. You can still get new 15" tires, but there's better variety offered for 16" rims, plus the 16" tend to be less expensive now.

rokblok

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I'm done. You're right. We're all stupid. Now continue to be cheap and go find some used tires somewhere.

Maybe they have cords or belts showing.

runs-on-4

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Did you say mud hippy was wrong??? What a joke

B-Fake

I wouldn't call having a matched set of wheels a coincidence, they generally come that way. I have a matched set of wheels and there's slop around the hub, but it doesn't matter because the lug nuts are what center the wheel, that's why they and the mating holes on the wheel are tapered.

shyguy

I just read this thread and noticed there was a lot of talking and expert opinion, but I would still like to know what rims fit a 1986 4-Runner. I tried Chevy 15" ralleys but the center hole was not big enough to go over the front hub.

InternetRoadkill

What you're looking for are 15x7 with 15mm offset (4-5/8" back spacing) with a 106mm center bore.

It hadn't occurred to me, but some yotas had steel wheels which can be used either lug-centric or hub-centric. Alloy wheels need to be hub-centric. There are spacers available to allow wheels with larger center bores to be used on yota hubs.

If you want to upgrade to 16" wheels, 2001-2004 Tacoma wheels fit perfectly.

runs-on-4

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they dont need to be 4 5/8th back spacing,

ive had multiple wheels both after market and stock, as long at the pattern is 6 x5.5 theyll fit

InternetRoadkill

They don't need to be 4-5/8, but it's risky to go more than that. The edge of the factory rims are very close to the tie rods already. Anything over 4-5/8" will probably require spacers.

zipposrule

ive just picked up a set of 2000 tundra rims for my taco and i know for a fact taco 15in aluminum rims will fit on a chevy or gmc colorado and im pretty sure the rims from them will fit on yotas. they have a 4.25in center hole.

InternetRoadkill

It depends. The rims from Chevy 1/2 ton 4wd trucks have 108mm center bores, so they will go on a Yota with some slop. However, the reverse may not be true since the Yota bores are slightly smaller.

rokblok

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There won't be any "slop" because Toys are lug centric...

Yes there can be space between the hub and wheel center hole, but they won't be loose.

InternetRoadkill

The steel wheels can be used lug-centric. But the alloy wheels are often hub-centric. Yes, you can get away with it, but it's not a good idea.

FYI, I have personal experience with what happens when you try to use an alloy wheel that's supposed to be hub-centric in a lug-centric application. Let's just say it's no fun busting studs at highway speeds.