Warn front bumper on 2nd gen vs. SAS

chimmike · 03-22-2007, 07:12 PM

So...the warn front bumper has two bolts and a plate that mount exactly where the SAS front spring perch gets welded to........

any ideas? Weld an equivalent plate to the frame and then the perch onto that, allowing the front bumper to slip out under it? hmm.

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Flygtenstein · 03-22-2007, 11:59 PM

If you can hang the axle, the bumper is no worries. Same tools, welder, grinder, plasma.

If you want to see pics of how to do it clean, that requires searching.

chimmike · 03-23-2007, 05:56 AM

I don't think you understand though Adrian.....the bumper bolts right to the portion where the front shackles mount and get welded to, making it not possible for the bumper to be bolted to the underside of the frame.......which is why I'm thinking weld a 3/8" steel plate to the middle part of the front frame in order to equal out what the spring mount will weld to and still make it so I can unbolt the bumper and slide it out of place should the need arise.....

i'll get a pic later to show ya.

rockota · 03-23-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chimmike

I don't think you understand though Adrian.....the bumper bolts right to the portion where the front shackles mount and get welded to, making it not possible for the bumper to be bolted to the underside of the frame.......which is why I'm thinking weld a 3/8" steel plate to the middle part of the front frame in order to equal out what the spring mount will weld to and still make it so I can unbolt the bumper and slide it out of place should the need arise.....

i'll get a pic later to show ya.

Adrian understands just fine... He's a smart guy. You just missed his point; use that same plasma, grinder and welder that you used to do the SAS to modify the bumper mounting position....

chimmike · 03-23-2007, 06:47 AM

don't think i'm gonna be fortunate enough to use a plasma cutter....it's gonna be sawzall fun.....heh.

So the welding a plate to level off doesn't sound good?

chimmike · 03-23-2007, 07:01 AM

here's the deal...I want to keep the removability of the bumper without having to weld it permanently in place.....but I also don't want to have to severely mangle the thing to do that, in case I want to sell it in the future.

Flygtenstein · 03-23-2007, 08:18 AM

I understand fine.

I am saying, more subltely this time, if you can cut off the IFS and weld on a hanger, you most be a reasonably competent manipulator of metal.

My ARB used to hang in the same place. I thought about modifying versus starting from scratch and chose to start from scratch.

seaflea · 03-23-2007, 08:47 AM

if you want to sell it later, you may find more poeple with a SAS thatn without and by modifying the bumper, you will have a better chance of selling it. Assuming you do a good job.

I modifiued an ARB from a Nissan to fit my runner and then sold it to someone that needed it for their toyota pick up. : )

chimmike · 03-23-2007, 10:14 AM

hmm. Guess I'll have to get the spring perch all welded on and then go from there. Maybe weld on another side support and bolt it further back on the frame or something.

I'm just trying to keep the required fabrication down to a minimum, know what I mean?

I don't have my hands on a MIG welder yet and that sort of thing...(i'm going to have the perch welded professionally anyways at this point, but for the other stuff) so we'll see. Gonna have to consider a plasma cutter though. Or at least an oxy torch.\

btw....I didn't mean to sound like an arsehat, sry!

03-22-2007, 11:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,246	If you can hang the axle, the bumper is no worries. Same tools, welder, grinder, plasma. If you want to see pics of how to do it clean, that requires searching. __________________ Ease on down the road.

03-23-2007, 05:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
chimmike Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SRQ, FL Posts: 1,529	I don't think you understand though Adrian.....the bumper bolts right to the portion where the front shackles mount and get welded to, making it not possible for the bumper to be bolted to the underside of the frame.......which is why I'm thinking weld a 3/8" steel plate to the middle part of the front frame in order to equal out what the spring mount will weld to and still make it so I can unbolt the bumper and slide it out of place should the need arise..... i'll get a pic later to show ya. __________________ '03 350z Turbocharged (totalled :( ) '04 Honda Accord LX V6 (first bone stock car I've owned in a while) 94 4runner SR5 4x4, 31x10.5's, SAS, Warn M8000 winch, Allpro bumper, Summit (K&N FIPK in different wrapping) CAI, flowmaster muff, 5.29's FOR SALE! '07 Harley-Davidson XL1200c, rush slip-ons

03-23-2007, 06:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
chimmike Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SRQ, FL Posts: 1,529	don't think i'm gonna be fortunate enough to use a plasma cutter....it's gonna be sawzall fun.....heh. So the welding a plate to level off doesn't sound good? __________________ '03 350z Turbocharged (totalled :( ) '04 Honda Accord LX V6 (first bone stock car I've owned in a while) 94 4runner SR5 4x4, 31x10.5's, SAS, Warn M8000 winch, Allpro bumper, Summit (K&N FIPK in different wrapping) CAI, flowmaster muff, 5.29's FOR SALE! '07 Harley-Davidson XL1200c, rush slip-ons

03-23-2007, 07:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
chimmike Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SRQ, FL Posts: 1,529	here's the deal...I want to keep the removability of the bumper without having to weld it permanently in place.....but I also don't want to have to severely mangle the thing to do that, in case I want to sell it in the future. Attached Thumbnails __________________ '03 350z Turbocharged (totalled :( ) '04 Honda Accord LX V6 (first bone stock car I've owned in a while) 94 4runner SR5 4x4, 31x10.5's, SAS, Warn M8000 winch, Allpro bumper, Summit (K&N FIPK in different wrapping) CAI, flowmaster muff, 5.29's FOR SALE! '07 Harley-Davidson XL1200c, rush slip-ons

03-23-2007, 08:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,246	I understand fine. I am saying, more subltely this time, if you can cut off the IFS and weld on a hanger, you most be a reasonably competent manipulator of metal. My ARB used to hang in the same place. I thought about modifying versus starting from scratch and chose to start from scratch. __________________ Ease on down the road.

03-23-2007, 08:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
seaflea Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: wilmington nc Posts: 1,602	if you want to sell it later, you may find more poeple with a SAS thatn without and by modifying the bumper, you will have a better chance of selling it. Assuming you do a good job. I modifiued an ARB from a Nissan to fit my runner and then sold it to someone that needed it for their toyota pick up. : ) __________________ Will WabFab Off-Road, LLC Toyota 4x4 Parts and Custom Fabrication updated website with lots of new products 87 runner with every bolt on available

03-23-2007, 10:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
chimmike Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SRQ, FL Posts: 1,529	hmm. Guess I'll have to get the spring perch all welded on and then go from there. Maybe weld on another side support and bolt it further back on the frame or something. I'm just trying to keep the required fabrication down to a minimum, know what I mean? I don't have my hands on a MIG welder yet and that sort of thing...(i'm going to have the perch welded professionally anyways at this point, but for the other stuff) so we'll see. Gonna have to consider a plasma cutter though. Or at least an oxy torch.\ btw....I didn't mean to sound like an arsehat, sry! __________________ '03 350z Turbocharged (totalled :( ) '04 Honda Accord LX V6 (first bone stock car I've owned in a while) 94 4runner SR5 4x4, 31x10.5's, SAS, Warn M8000 winch, Allpro bumper, Summit (K&N FIPK in different wrapping) CAI, flowmaster muff, 5.29's FOR SALE! '07 Harley-Davidson XL1200c, rush slip-ons

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