military trailer and expedition use

neliconcept · 04-01-2007, 07:01 PM

just spotted a military trailer with the chain like recieving point where it used Rings like a chain.

http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auctio...tionId=1180031

Starting bid is like 50 bucks, Their are several on the website like this, my bro did it to me again where I discussed it with him and hes like DO IT (ill fab up a frame work around the trailer) all the time he gets me into trouble with mods first a turboed 4runner (which will happen) and now this trailer setup.

going to do a dual tire carrier where it sits two 33s in a tube seating for the spares.

gonna build some type of grill onto this and have a removable top so I can store stuff on long trips (mainly to put my crap in when I go out to Colorado State) and other stuff.

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neliconcept · 04-01-2007, 07:23 PM

a trailer for 100 bucks, a jeep trailer from the 50s, however its a bit smaller though dunno if it would work for me or not.

actually i read it wrong, its a 100 bucks for the cover, they are running like 1200 on ebay, so the big trailer it is for me since i can prob get it for 150 to 200

then their is the m416 trailer

find one beat up to hell and just repaint it and fix it up for a camping type situation.

xcmountain80 · 04-01-2007, 07:31 PM

Yeah I want a m416 and build it and put my roof tent on it.

Aaron

neliconcept · 04-01-2007, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcmountain80

Yeah I want a m416 and build it and put my roof tent on it.

Aaron

most likely if I can find the 416, we will build some sort of shell for it, maybe big enough to get in side. strong enough to put a Eezi Awn or Overland setup on top and use the inside for getting warm and maybe a table to play (cards whatever, eating) I just dont know where to look for one as far as auctions go. the gov auction had bigger trailers, well I think they would be too big for my setup purposes.

neliconcept · 04-01-2007, 07:36 PM

not big on the camo paint, id likely get some silver hammered finish or herculine it silver to go with the color of my runner.

neliconcept · 04-01-2007, 07:55 PM

if yall cant see these let me know and ill rehost them

slosurfer · 04-01-2007, 08:25 PM

Don't get those first ones, they are huge. Way too big for a 4runner or landcruiser for that matter. I have a M416 and love it. Last summer took it from CA to northern MN and on the way back toured CO with it.
Recent trail test and to see how it did on washboards

Hard to see but flexing it

MN, CO trip

Paid 300 bones for it, wired up some lights, new tires, and a cover so far. Eventually gas can carriers, hard top, roof top tent, water tank, and possibly cut a tailgate. The reason for no tail gate, they will float loaded with 500 lbs. If you have the $$$$ buy a new or nearly new canadian one.

neliconcept · 04-01-2007, 08:27 PM

stiff axle for the floating or does the suspension not handle 500 pounds? kinda confused. Im also looking into the m101's as welll which i think are the same size but a bit newer. I like the front mounted spare, I was thinking about doing a dual mounted spare for the trailer and my 4runner. what do the tires measure out to in diameter? I may end up getting some 33x12.50 and some 15 inch steelies for it.

RunnerUp · 04-01-2007, 08:33 PM

hmm, i like this idea, i would enjoy having a small/cheap trailer to use for expedition type use. dont have the funds for a campa and i havent been able to find a junker old pick up to create a trailer out of the bed section of it.

slosurfer · 04-01-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neliconcept

stiff axle for the floating or does the suspension not handle 500 pounds? kinda confused. Im also looking into the m101's as welll which i think are the same size but a bit newer. I like the front mounted spare, I was thinking about doing a dual mounted spare for the trailer and my 4runner. what do the tires measure out to in diameter? I may end up getting some 33x12.50 and some 15 inch steelies for it.

Sorry, they will float in a water crossing. They have two drain plugs on the bottom and no tailgate so that the trailer will float in a water crossing if needed with up to 500 lbs in it.

My front mounted spare didn't work well offroad, could work with some fabbed brackets. The tires are slightly taller than 31" (at least the truck tires I have on there). I wouldn't go with 33x12.5's, go with 10.5s or 9.5s. You could still use them as spares in a pinch, also the wider tire would make it harder to manuever by yourself. Even fully loaded, I can move it around a flat driveway by myself, the wide tires would make that a little harder. I do plan on switching to some matching steelies and I have a set of 2piece wheel adapters that will change the bolt pattern from 5on5.5 to 6on5.5. I could just swap hubs from a trailer place, but I would lose my parking brake and that thing is just too cool.

CJM · 04-01-2007, 08:38 PM

M101 is about 12 feet long, 6 feet wide and 4 feet high or something like that..I know its def very long.

slosurfer · 04-01-2007, 08:39 PM

Also, with 33's these things are tall! With the trailer on 31's, the pintle ring in the lower slot, and my 4runner on 33's, it is pretty much straight across to my hitch. If I put it on 33's I will have to raise my pintle back up like in the CO pic where the 4runner was on 31's.

slosurfer · 04-01-2007, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJM

M101 is about 12 feet long, 6 feet wide and 4 feet high or something like that..I know its def very long.

The american M101's are huge, while the canadian M101's are a newer copy of the M416

neliconcept · 04-01-2007, 08:43 PM

yeah im looking at the canadian m101s, 899 new from ironpig. Im looking to spend about 400 to 500 though, id like to spend a little less if possible.

neliconcept · 04-01-2007, 08:58 PM

somewhat going with this idea maybe of an inclosed trailer over time

xcmountain80 · 04-02-2007, 05:37 AM

Im not interested in the enclosed but for someone without a roof tent not a bad idea. I like the chaser trailers but dont want to pay the cash $4k-$10k.Ouch. They are nice but I can build something similar for less. I figure if I start with a m416 this would be a perfect platform for camping and adventuring. I do get tired of having to hav someone help me put on and take off my mammoth hannibal roof tent.

Aaron

Brenjen · 04-02-2007, 06:06 AM

About the hitch, that "ring chain type thing" is actually called a pintle hitch. You can get a combination - ball & pintle or just the regular hook & loop type; here is a link to both types so you can see them:

http://www.reese-hitches.com/pintle_hooks.html

I would recommend getting the combination hitch instead of cutting the tongue of the trailer & installing a crappy sheet metal ball type on it. If you did cut the trailer & replace the tongue; replace it with a "Bulldog" type hitch:

http://store.towshop.com/store/more_...Category_ID=91

neliconcept · 04-02-2007, 06:19 AM

yeah I didnt know what a pintle style was until I started reading up. it also used a lintel as well I think.

Aaron- chaser is built off the m101 and m416 platform, so yeah 5k for the trailer is really the suspension they used and the custom design extras. I just cant afford to pay 6k, i dont think i saw one for 4k.

jjrgr21 · 04-02-2007, 02:48 PM

i found a 416 today, but the guy wanted $2000 for it, and it wasn't in great shape by any means. what size square tube do you recon for building one.

neliconcept · 04-02-2007, 04:14 PM

a 416 in bad shape will bring 200-300 bucks, a 416 in decent shape should not exceed 800, one in perfect shape shouldnt exceed 1400.

thats the prices ive seen. I plan to use gov liquidation to get mine. gonna call my uncle (ex army) to see what his thoughts are on one.

Erich_870 · 04-02-2007, 04:20 PM

IH8MUD.com had a trailer forum that is chocked full of good info and ideas for the M416 trailers. http://forum.ih8mud.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98

Ton's of pics and how-to's for creating your own offroad trailer.

Erich

neliconcept · 04-02-2007, 07:02 PM

problem is finding one and getting it cheap as I dont have money to be paying 7 to 800 for a decent trailer

jjrgr21 · 04-02-2007, 07:10 PM

how do you go about purchasing off of gov liquidation? i signed up but not sure about bidding.

neliconcept · 04-02-2007, 07:36 PM

im not sure either, but I think you may have to be present at one of the military bases where an auction is being held

slosurfer · 04-02-2007, 09:31 PM

ebay is a good site for these, also check out www.expeditionportal.com they have a trailer section and I see them pop up for sale from time to time

04-01-2007, 07:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	a trailer for 100 bucks, a jeep trailer from the 50s, however its a bit smaller though dunno if it would work for me or not. actually i read it wrong, its a 100 bucks for the cover, they are running like 1200 on ebay, so the big trailer it is for me since i can prob get it for 150 to 200 then their is the m416 trailer find one beat up to hell and just repaint it and fix it up for a camping type situation. Last edited by neliconcept; 04-01-2007 at 07:26 PM.

04-01-2007, 07:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	not big on the camo paint, id likely get some silver hammered finish or herculine it silver to go with the color of my runner. Last edited by neliconcept; 04-01-2007 at 07:56 PM.

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neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	if yall cant see these let me know and ill rehost them Last edited by neliconcept; 04-01-2007 at 08:12 PM.

04-01-2007, 08:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
slosurfer Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Osos, CA (we can't agree on crap!) Posts: 2,155	Don't get those first ones, they are huge. Way too big for a 4runner or landcruiser for that matter. I have a M416 and love it. Last summer took it from CA to northern MN and on the way back toured CO with it. Recent trail test and to see how it did on washboards Hard to see but flexing it MN, CO trip Paid 300 bones for it, wired up some lights, new tires, and a cover so far. Eventually gas can carriers, hard top, roof top tent, water tank, and possibly cut a tailgate. The reason for no tail gate, they will float loaded with 500 lbs. If you have the $$$$ buy a new or nearly new canadian one. __________________ Chris 7th Annual Pismo Jamboree: Sept. 25-27, 2009 '93 4runner SR5 3.0 Auto 4WD '07 Tacoma Dcab 4x4 TRD offroad '89 F250 4x4 w/utility bed M416 1/4 ton military trailer "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan Semper Fi SLO 4wheelers

04-01-2007, 08:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
RunnerUp Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,020	hmm, i like this idea, i would enjoy having a small/cheap trailer to use for expedition type use. dont have the funds for a campa and i havent been able to find a junker old pick up to create a trailer out of the bed section of it. __________________ Kyle 2002 4Runner - Lifted/Locked/Armored/Charged - 145k Miles 2007 4Runner V8 Sport Edition 4WD 20k Miles Buy My Stuff!!! http://www.yotatech.com/f109/97-4run...rt-out-151470/

04-01-2007, 07:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
xcmountain80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 1,880	Yeah I want a m416 and build it and put my roof tent on it. Aaron

04-01-2007, 08:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	stiff axle for the floating or does the suspension not handle 500 pounds? kinda confused. Im also looking into the m101's as welll which i think are the same size but a bit newer. I like the front mounted spare, I was thinking about doing a dual mounted spare for the trailer and my 4runner. what do the tires measure out to in diameter? I may end up getting some 33x12.50 and some 15 inch steelies for it.

04-01-2007, 08:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
CJM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central NJ Posts: 4,561	M101 is about 12 feet long, 6 feet wide and 4 feet high or something like that..I know its def very long. __________________ 96' T100 SR5 4x4, ISR mod, Custom ABS snorkel, KC 57's Hella optilux el cheapo backup lights. Cobra 19III CB, Firestick 4ft antenna, Bilstein shocks. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

04-01-2007, 08:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
slosurfer Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Osos, CA (we can't agree on crap!) Posts: 2,155	Also, with 33's these things are tall! With the trailer on 31's, the pintle ring in the lower slot, and my 4runner on 33's, it is pretty much straight across to my hitch. If I put it on 33's I will have to raise my pintle back up like in the CO pic where the 4runner was on 31's. __________________ Chris 7th Annual Pismo Jamboree: Sept. 25-27, 2009 '93 4runner SR5 3.0 Auto 4WD '07 Tacoma Dcab 4x4 TRD offroad '89 F250 4x4 w/utility bed M416 1/4 ton military trailer "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan Semper Fi SLO 4wheelers

04-01-2007, 08:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	yeah im looking at the canadian m101s, 899 new from ironpig. Im looking to spend about 400 to 500 though, id like to spend a little less if possible.

04-01-2007, 08:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	somewhat going with this idea maybe of an inclosed trailer over time

04-02-2007, 05:37 AM	#16 (permalink)
xcmountain80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 1,880	Im not interested in the enclosed but for someone without a roof tent not a bad idea. I like the chaser trailers but dont want to pay the cash $4k-$10k.Ouch. They are nice but I can build something similar for less. I figure if I start with a m416 this would be a perfect platform for camping and adventuring. I do get tired of having to hav someone help me put on and take off my mammoth hannibal roof tent. Aaron

04-02-2007, 06:06 AM	#17 (permalink)
Brenjen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Searcy, Arkansas Posts: 1,191	About the hitch, that "ring chain type thing" is actually called a pintle hitch. You can get a combination - ball & pintle or just the regular hook & loop type; here is a link to both types so you can see them: http://www.reese-hitches.com/pintle_hooks.html I would recommend getting the combination hitch instead of cutting the tongue of the trailer & installing a crappy sheet metal ball type on it. If you did cut the trailer & replace the tongue; replace it with a "Bulldog" type hitch: http://store.towshop.com/store/more_...Category_ID=91 __________________ '95 4Runner 3.0 Automatic bone stock; it's becoming a project slowly but surely, one part at a time "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

04-02-2007, 06:19 AM	#18 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	yeah I didnt know what a pintle style was until I started reading up. it also used a lintel as well I think. Aaron- chaser is built off the m101 and m416 platform, so yeah 5k for the trailer is really the suspension they used and the custom design extras. I just cant afford to pay 6k, i dont think i saw one for 4k.

04-02-2007, 02:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
jjrgr21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,520	i found a 416 today, but the guy wanted $2000 for it, and it wasn't in great shape by any means. what size square tube do you recon for building one. __________________ 2003 4WD TRD Tacoma 1986 4Runner

04-02-2007, 04:20 PM	#21 (permalink)
Erich_870 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 973	Check out IH8MUD's Trailer Tech Forum IH8MUD.com had a trailer forum that is chocked full of good info and ideas for the M416 trailers. http://forum.ih8mud.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98 Ton's of pics and how-to's for creating your own offroad trailer. Erich __________________ 99' Black Highlander 4runner / Garage Profile Black powder coated 8x16 Wheeler Off-Road allow wheels / Husky floor liners / Thule MOAB rack / Custom Sub Enclosure / Back-up lights "I don't high-light my hair, I've still got a pair, yeah honey, I'm still a guy. My eye brows aint plucked, there's a gun in my truck, Oh thank GOD, I'm still a guy!" Brad Paisley

04-02-2007, 04:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	a 416 in bad shape will bring 200-300 bucks, a 416 in decent shape should not exceed 800, one in perfect shape shouldnt exceed 1400. thats the prices ive seen. I plan to use gov liquidation to get mine. gonna call my uncle (ex army) to see what his thoughts are on one.

04-02-2007, 07:02 PM	#22 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	problem is finding one and getting it cheap as I dont have money to be paying 7 to 800 for a decent trailer

04-02-2007, 07:10 PM	#23 (permalink)
jjrgr21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,520	how do you go about purchasing off of gov liquidation? i signed up but not sure about bidding. __________________ 2003 4WD TRD Tacoma 1986 4Runner

04-02-2007, 07:36 PM	#24 (permalink)
neliconcept Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 0	im not sure either, but I think you may have to be present at one of the military bases where an auction is being held

04-02-2007, 09:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
slosurfer Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Osos, CA (we can't agree on crap!) Posts: 2,155	ebay is a good site for these, also check out www.expeditionportal.com they have a trailer section and I see them pop up for sale from time to time __________________ Chris 7th Annual Pismo Jamboree: Sept. 25-27, 2009 '93 4runner SR5 3.0 Auto 4WD '07 Tacoma Dcab 4x4 TRD offroad '89 F250 4x4 w/utility bed M416 1/4 ton military trailer "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan Semper Fi SLO 4wheelers

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