in to the shop

kylextrisler · 10-23-2007, 12:31 PM

heard a belt squeeling, then saw smoke from under the hood
pull over and it seems to be coming out of a few areas, near the radiator, maybe alternator? the belt wound up snaping and everytime i start her smoke
so i get a tow truck
take it to the shop
cuz i dont have a garage, im a student, in an apartment, dont get to take much more of a look
drop her off the guy asks if it starts i say "yes but with alot of smoke from the compartmnet" he goes
"but she starts?"
"yes but idk what the problem is sooo"
and he goes out side and drives it to the lot across the street for storage...
now im wishing i had somewhere else to take it
but my 5 miles were up w/ the tow truck
and im stranded
damn

kylextrisler · 10-23-2007, 02:23 PM

k
so i get my call
after the inspection
and its going to cost over 1k to fix...
like i have 1k to spend on my truck im a college student!
the bearing froze up on the...fan...hub...pully, yaknow, system
tahts what he called it
wtf does this guy know what hes talking about? so tryin to figure out what the
fan...hub...pully...yaknow...system is and why its costing 600 alone to get

mikes19984x4 · 10-23-2007, 02:27 PM

dude, get a phone book and call around for some estimates before you give the go-ahead to do the work. that's what i would do, as i'm in college also...

kylextrisler · 10-23-2007, 02:33 PM

oh thats for sure
im not going to throw down 1g for this
my truck is only worth like 3! i might as well sell it for 1500 and put down 500 and get something w/ a solid axle hahah
so i guess ill call around and figure it out

mikes19984x4 · 10-23-2007, 02:35 PM

yeah, that's a good plan to go by. let us know what kind of info you find...

kylextrisler · 10-23-2007, 02:37 PM

its the pulley system and bracket that turns all the fans i guess
anyone know the real name
cuz this guy cant seem to figure it out

**Elvota** · 10-23-2007, 02:47 PM

What motor do you have....?

kylextrisler · 10-23-2007, 02:53 PM

got the 3vze

**Elvota** · 10-23-2007, 03:04 PM

You need to figure out what bearing froze up first. Also figure out what belt broke. There should be three. One for the AC, one for PS and one for alternator.

If it's just a bearing/ pulley that froze, you should be able to replace that pretty easily. If the fan clutch froze, a local junkyard may have a new fan assembly which again is relatively easy to replace.

Now... if the belt you are refering to that broke was your timing belt... that's another story. Still fixable though, but a garage would help.

kylextrisler · 10-23-2007, 03:33 PM

yea im going to go down there now and talk to him
tell him i dont have the cash
sucks i dont have a place to fix it at
maybe he'll drop the price significantly haha
it suckksss

**Elvota** · 10-23-2007, 04:19 PM

Post up exactley what he wants to replace and his diagnosis of the problem if you want YT feedback as to cost and such.

drshoebocks · 10-23-2007, 04:28 PM

Out of curiousity, would it start if the timing belt broke? Sounds a bit steep unless it is the timing belt, and even still...uggghhhhh.

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 04:33 PM

No, the truck would not run with a snapped timing belt.
It just turns over.

**Elvota** · 10-23-2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay351

No, the truck would not run with a snapped timing belt.
It just turns over.

What he said. ^^^

But what I don't get is that if he snapped an accessory belt... why the truck would no longer run, and would have to be towed.

MMA_Alex · 10-23-2007, 04:46 PM

have the truck towed to a real mechanic!

the yaknow system is frozen? , thats gunna be like $10k atleast... plus you're gunna have to fly in the yaknow specialist straight from japan...

mehret · 10-23-2007, 04:53 PM

I agree. You're getting hosed.

kylextrisler · 10-23-2007, 04:57 PM

k got back, i didnt have to get it towed, but i got AAA so the tow there was just cuz i didnt feel like taking any risks
The timing belt is good and it runs
but the fan belt assembly is done
the alternator belt is done
im gonna try and take pictures
he gave a description so im gonna have to check out what it is myself
it drives
but overheats (no fan so obviously) and sucks to turn 12.50 wide tires w/o p/s haha

kylextrisler · 10-23-2007, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMA_Alex

have the truck towed to a real mechanic!

the yaknow system is frozen? , thats gunna be like $10k atleast... plus you're gunna have to fly in the yaknow specialist straight from japan...

**Elvota** · 10-23-2007, 05:02 PM

Sounds like you just need two new belts and a fan clutch assembly to me.

mehret · 10-23-2007, 05:05 PM

Yeah but if he ran it too long without a fan, he may have bigger problems.

I'd start by replacing the defunct parts and see what happens from there.

**aviator** · 10-23-2007, 05:15 PM

Sounds like he just overheated it, he said he stopped right away and had it towed... as long as he goes no great distance he should have to worry about warping the heads or anything...
The squealing was probably from the power steering pump or one of the idler pulleys... he might need a new fan clutch too but what an opportunity to install an elec. fan!...
The basic part replacements [belts/fan clutch] are not too hard just a PITA...
don't forget to change the rad. coolant...

n4ynu1010 · 10-23-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylextrisler

k got back, i didnt have to get it towed, but i got AAA so the tow there was just cuz i didnt feel like taking any risks
The timing belt is good and it runs
but the fan belt assembly is done
the alternator belt is done
im gonna try and take pictures
he gave a description so im gonna have to check out what it is myself
it drives
but overheats (no fan so obviously) and sucks to turn 12.50 wide tires w/o p/s haha

What kind of description is that hehe , I would roll it out in the road to get away from there

10-23-2007, 12:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
kylextrisler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 184	in to the shop heard a belt squeeling, then saw smoke from under the hood pull over and it seems to be coming out of a few areas, near the radiator, maybe alternator? the belt wound up snaping and everytime i start her smoke so i get a tow truck take it to the shop cuz i dont have a garage, im a student, in an apartment, dont get to take much more of a look drop her off the guy asks if it starts i say "yes but with alot of smoke from the compartmnet" he goes "but she starts?" "yes but idk what the problem is sooo" and he goes out side and drives it to the lot across the street for storage... now im wishing i had somewhere else to take it but my 5 miles were up w/ the tow truck and im stranded damn __________________ LcCoils, Bj Spacers, procomp es9k's, 33x12.50 xterrains sittin on 15x8 black rockcrawlers, 4crawler Panhard drop bracket

10-23-2007, 02:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
kylextrisler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 184	k so i get my call after the inspection and its going to cost over 1k to fix... like i have 1k to spend on my truck im a college student! the bearing froze up on the...fan...hub...pully, yaknow, system tahts what he called it wtf does this guy know what hes talking about? so tryin to figure out what the fan...hub...pully...yaknow...system is and why its costing 600 alone to get __________________ LcCoils, Bj Spacers, procomp es9k's, 33x12.50 xterrains sittin on 15x8 black rockcrawlers, 4crawler Panhard drop bracket

10-23-2007, 02:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
mikes19984x4 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 664	dude, get a phone book and call around for some estimates before you give the go-ahead to do the work. that's what i would do, as i'm in college also... __________________ 1998 4Runner SR5 4x4 3.4 w/5-speed & E-Locker Deckplate & ISR mod & K&N, 2.5-inch Exhaust w/40-Series Flowmaster Bilstien Shocks, 265/75/16 Buckshot Mudders Sylvania Silverstars, Hella 500s on front bumper (no longer), Orange Gauge Lights, JVC Arsenal Head Unit, Pioneer REV-Series Speakers More mods to come...

10-23-2007, 02:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
kylextrisler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 184	oh thats for sure im not going to throw down 1g for this my truck is only worth like 3! i might as well sell it for 1500 and put down 500 and get something w/ a solid axle hahah so i guess ill call around and figure it out __________________ LcCoils, Bj Spacers, procomp es9k's, 33x12.50 xterrains sittin on 15x8 black rockcrawlers, 4crawler Panhard drop bracket

10-23-2007, 02:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
mikes19984x4 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 664	yeah, that's a good plan to go by. let us know what kind of info you find... __________________ 1998 4Runner SR5 4x4 3.4 w/5-speed & E-Locker Deckplate & ISR mod & K&N, 2.5-inch Exhaust w/40-Series Flowmaster Bilstien Shocks, 265/75/16 Buckshot Mudders Sylvania Silverstars, Hella 500s on front bumper (no longer), Orange Gauge Lights, JVC Arsenal Head Unit, Pioneer REV-Series Speakers More mods to come...

10-23-2007, 02:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
kylextrisler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 184	its the pulley system and bracket that turns all the fans i guess anyone know the real name cuz this guy cant seem to figure it out __________________ LcCoils, Bj Spacers, procomp es9k's, 33x12.50 xterrains sittin on 15x8 black rockcrawlers, 4crawler Panhard drop bracket Last edited by kylextrisler : 10-23-2007 at 02:38 PM.

10-23-2007, 02:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,105	What motor do you have....? __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

10-23-2007, 02:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
kylextrisler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 184	got the 3vze __________________ LcCoils, Bj Spacers, procomp es9k's, 33x12.50 xterrains sittin on 15x8 black rockcrawlers, 4crawler Panhard drop bracket

10-23-2007, 03:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,105	You need to figure out what bearing froze up first. Also figure out what belt broke. There should be three. One for the AC, one for PS and one for alternator. If it's just a bearing/ pulley that froze, you should be able to replace that pretty easily. If the fan clutch froze, a local junkyard may have a new fan assembly which again is relatively easy to replace. Now... if the belt you are refering to that broke was your timing belt... that's another story. Still fixable though, but a garage would help. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

10-23-2007, 03:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
kylextrisler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 184	yea im going to go down there now and talk to him tell him i dont have the cash sucks i dont have a place to fix it at maybe he'll drop the price significantly haha it suckksss __________________ LcCoils, Bj Spacers, procomp es9k's, 33x12.50 xterrains sittin on 15x8 black rockcrawlers, 4crawler Panhard drop bracket

10-23-2007, 04:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,105	Post up exactley what he wants to replace and his diagnosis of the problem if you want YT feedback as to cost and such. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

10-23-2007, 04:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
drshoebocks Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chigaco Posts: 28	Out of curiousity, would it start if the timing belt broke? Sounds a bit steep unless it is the timing belt, and even still...uggghhhhh.

10-23-2007, 04:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 5,025	No, the truck would not run with a snapped timing belt. It just turns over. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - sr5 - 4x4 - 220,000kms \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \|Diff breather mod \| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|Downey idler arm brace\| Marlin armor \| Amsoil synthetic drivetrain fluids http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 04:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
MMA_Alex Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Castine, ME/Rochester, NY Posts: 1,348	have the truck towed to a real mechanic! the yaknow system is frozen? , thats gunna be like $10k atleast... plus you're gunna have to fly in the yaknow specialist straight from japan...

10-23-2007, 04:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
mehret Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Williamsport (School,Work)/Palmerton (Home), PA Posts: 624	I agree. You're getting hosed. __________________ 87 Toyota Pickup 22r, 5pd., 220,000 miles, 15x8 steels, 31x10.5x15 BFG A/T, tiger camo There are excuses and results: No one cares about the excuses.

10-23-2007, 04:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
kylextrisler Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 184	k got back, i didnt have to get it towed, but i got AAA so the tow there was just cuz i didnt feel like taking any risks The timing belt is good and it runs but the fan belt assembly is done the alternator belt is done im gonna try and take pictures he gave a description so im gonna have to check out what it is myself it drives but overheats (no fan so obviously) and sucks to turn 12.50 wide tires w/o p/s haha __________________ LcCoils, Bj Spacers, procomp es9k's, 33x12.50 xterrains sittin on 15x8 black rockcrawlers, 4crawler Panhard drop bracket

10-23-2007, 05:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,105	Sounds like you just need two new belts and a fan clutch assembly to me. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

10-23-2007, 05:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
mehret Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Williamsport (School,Work)/Palmerton (Home), PA Posts: 624	Yeah but if he ran it too long without a fan, he may have bigger problems. I'd start by replacing the defunct parts and see what happens from there. __________________ 87 Toyota Pickup 22r, 5pd., 220,000 miles, 15x8 steels, 31x10.5x15 BFG A/T, tiger camo There are excuses and results: No one cares about the excuses.

10-23-2007, 05:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 4,677	Sounds like he just overheated it, he said he stopped right away and had it towed... as long as he goes no great distance he should have to worry about warping the heads or anything... The squealing was probably from the power steering pump or one of the idler pulleys... he might need a new fan clutch too but what an opportunity to install an elec. fan!... The basic part replacements [belts/fan clutch] are not too hard just a PITA... don't forget to change the rad. coolant... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started nothing but mobil1 10W30 mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.