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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Sounds like he just overheated it, he said he stopped right away and had it towed... as long as he goes no great distance he should have to worry about warping the heads or anything...
The squealing was probably from the power steering pump or one of the idler pulleys... he might need a new fan clutch too but what an opportunity to install an elec. fan!...
The basic part replacements [belts/fan clutch] are not too hard just a PITA...
don't forget to change the rad. coolant...
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kylextrisler
k got back, i didnt have to get it towed, but i got AAA so the tow there was just cuz i didnt feel like taking any risks
The timing belt is good and it runs
but the fan belt assembly is done
the alternator belt is done
im gonna try and take pictures
he gave a description so im gonna have to check out what it is myself
it drives
but overheats (no fan so obviously) and sucks to turn 12.50 wide tires w/o p/s haha
What kind of description is that hehe , I would roll it out in the road to get away from there
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by aviator
... he might need a new fan clutch too but what an opportunity to install an elec. fan!...
Oh so very true... and I happen to have one for a 3.0 for sale.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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hahah i might have to contact you for that! let me type out what his description is
"We advised the customer the clutch fan hub bearing/bracket is bad and will need to be replaced along with the drive belts, Replace the 'clutch fan hub bearing/bracket' and driver belts. 1011.37"
customer declined
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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I didn't read into your problem too intensively but recently, I was in a similar position. I had JUST bought a 4Runner and a day later, the timing chain snapped. Toyota wanted $4000 to fix the problem (on a $4500 truck) so I decided to fix it myself. I'm a construction worker with one year univeristy and I'm saving up for another year so I was screwed. I called some mechanically minded friends and between two of us and $300 in parts, we were able to fix a $4000 problem. I encourage you to do a little research, get ahold of a Hanes manual or a Toyota Service Manual and go for it on your parents driveway. This forum is also a great resource.

I wish you the best of luck and have a little faith in your abilities,
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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yea its a drain!
so im gonna try and find out what this part is
borrow my roomates bike or something for alittle haha
see about fixing it myself i have a buddy who is pretty decent w/ trucks, and i figure if i can make it into college and this guy i know who dropped out of hs became a mechanic, i can learn how to fix this hahah
thanks matt
sounds like ill be heading that way!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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The fan bearing bracket thingy is expensive, but you can sometimes get them 'used' from a wreckers. That will save a significant amount on your repair bill.

You're still going to have to replace the belts, but the bracket and bearing is only available new from one source: the dealership.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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i just found out there is a toyota wrecking yard in Rancho Cordova? which is near by, maybe some other sacramento locals can tell me more info about it
but i'll probably go there to try and find one
cuz im def. not going to the dealership about....



anything....
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kylextrisler
hahah i might have to contact you for that! let me type out what his description is
"We advised the customer the clutch fan hub bearing/bracket is bad and will need to be replaced along with the drive belts, Replace the 'clutch fan hub bearing/bracket' and driver belts. 1011.37"
customer declined
So they were going to hit you for 1K for a Fan Clutch Assy and 2 belts , geesh they must be hungry or thought you was one 'o them big city rich boys
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by n4ynu1010
geesh they must be hungry or thought you was one 'o them big city rich boys
hahaha i know
its not like im rollin on 20's and a Chevy w/ a block lift....
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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OK, so I don't know the 3.0, so this is to you guys that do. Are you talking about the thing in the middle of this exploded view called "fan bracket"?

http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...67timingbe.pdf

Because the way I read it, this is nearly a timing belt change which I would hate to take on in a parking lot. Can that thing be removed without removing the timing belt cover and/or the timing belt? Please straighten me out here.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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Man, people post up their own pure speculation, as if that's going to help this guy. "Vern, I think it's the fexer valve" "gonna need 3 quarts of antifreeze and some 40 weight ball bearings"
This guy needs a new fan bracket assembly and a couple of belts. It's not rocket science. The smoke is from the burning belts, as evidenced by has statement that a belt burned up and broke. He didn't overheat it, that would require driving it around like this for a while. He also never mentioned it overheating.

This is simply a case of replacing the bad bracket assembly and installing new belts.
How about $75 for the fan and prolly $20 for belts?

http://www2.partstrain.com/v5/produc...+idler+bracket

Then he can replace it in the driveway with a mechanically inclined buddy in less than 2 hours. Figure buy the buddy a nice case of beer. Jeesh.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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Thats more or less exactly what i was saying Will... my thought about the overheat was based on his description about a cloud of white smoke and all the belts missing... as I said it [the fan braket and belt replacement] is a relatively simple and easy fix with basic hand tools, just a PITA is all...

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:39 AM
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just throw in a flex-a-lite and call it a day.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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The fan pulley bracket assembly is about $800 from the dealer(it comes with a new fan clutch and pulley), so their estimate isn't totally out of line. They fail quite often, so if you buy used, inspect it carefully. If you find a shop that deals with "Worldpac" (most euro/japanese shops should) they sell the bracket in the $200 range(jobber price).

The bracket can be fairly easily changed without disturbing the T-belt in about an hour.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by motoriderbc
The fan pulley bracket assembly is about $800 from the dealer(it comes with a new fan clutch and pulley), so their estimate isn't totally out of line. They fail quite often, so if you buy used, inspect it carefully. If you find a shop that deals with "Worldpac" (most euro/japanese shops should) they sell the bracket in the $200 range(jobber price).

The bracket can be fairly easily changed without disturbing the T-belt in about an hour.
The link I included is Worldpack stuff- Autopartswarehouse.com is their online site where consumers can purchase. Some of the pictures even include the 'WorldPac' copyright; I know because I've purchased quite a few Audi, Toyota and Nissan parts from them and they all come with Worldpac labeling.

The link I included isn't autopartswarehouse.com but was the first that came up in my quick search and obviously feeds from the same database.. They also sell fans and fan clutches but if he only needs the bracket it would be far more economical to purchase only the bracket.The only thing I noticed is that the description doesn't include 93-95 but I highly doubt they made a different style for those years.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Fan Clutch Assy

Originally Posted by motoriderbc
The fan pulley bracket assembly is about $800 from the dealer(it comes with a new fan clutch and pulley), so their estimate isn't totally out of line. They fail quite often, so if you buy used, inspect it carefully. If you find a shop that deals with "Worldpac" (most euro/japanese shops should) they sell the bracket in the $200 range(jobber price).

The bracket can be fairly easily changed without disturbing the T-belt in about an hour.
Well they should have the insight to offer to install a used one then , if mine goes it will be either used or replaced with a spacer and nice flex fan , most of my vehicles have always had flex fans after fan clutch death , much more air flow than stock fan with clutch and at high way rpm blades flatten and the drag presented is less than that of the clutch fan as well , better highway mpg and cooler in town , its all good , you could get a flex fan (use a medium to heavy duty/rv) for $50 , spacer maybe another $10-12 and your done , it is a good way to cheaply fix and then find the clutch assy later or leave it be , they work nice , I have had one on every vehicle I have ever owned with a belt driven fan and getting ready to put one on the Yota as well this summer .
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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yessss this is what i like to hear, im gonna look around into these parts and see what i can get...so what looked like 1000 might be, 375 at most of i get the fan pulley bracket assembly along w/ the fans and everything
he says a bearing locked up, would that be in the assembly or the bracket?
i figure i just need that out
ill replace all the belts, might as well if im down there, and maybe even put in a flex fan, $300 or so doesnt hurt me too bad, i can get that, 1000 however....so im gonna keep researching, and keep at it w/ the posts guys!
thank you!
btw i was able to drive it home, the waterpump was working, but the pulleys to the fan, power steering and alternator are the ones that are messed, do all of these sit w/ the water pump bracket?

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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The fan clutch isn't bad. The fan bracket bearing is frozen up. No need to replace anything else. If this thread was about overheating then it may be prudent to replace the fan clutch. FWIW, I had a fan clutch freeze up on me and I ran it like that for a couple months until I found another. It just used a little more gas and had little less power since a frozen fan clutch is like not having a fan clutch at all.
Seems like many folks are wrongly assuming this guy needs a fan or a fan clutch. Both of which are probably fine.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kylextrisler
yessss this is what i like to hear, im gonna look around into these parts and see what i can get...so what looked like 1000 might be, 375 at most of i get the fan pulley bracket assembly along w/ the fans and everything
he says a bearing locked up, would that be in the assembly or the bracket?
i figure i just need that out
ill replace all the belts, might as well if im down there, and maybe even put in a flex fan, $300 or so doesnt hurt me too bad, i can get that, 1000 however....so im gonna keep researching, and keep at it w/ the posts guys!
thank you!
Dude, get the $70 bracket assembly and toss on a couple of new belts while you're at it. DON'T buy a fan, fan clutch, or anything else! This is a simple operation. You will only need a couple of hand tools to do it.
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