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Old 09-03-2008, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt16
Did the larger MAF actually make much of a difference? This is the '83 Supra/ Cressida MAF?
There's already a couple of threads about it. In short, no it's not a Supra unit. Early Toyotas use a VAFM which is very different from a MAF. The MAF I used was from a GM 3.1L V6. It's 76mm and breathes much better than the stock VAFM. It knocked 2 seconds from the 0-60 time.
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Thank god I have the Camaro.

The 4runner is by far the slowest thing I've ever owned, I come home from driving the runner, get in the camaro which is a deep 11 sec car and I feel like John Force.
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If I get home in time this Friday, I'm taking my truck to run Club Clash up at Bandimere. 262K mile 22RE, 5spd, with stock 4:10s and heavy 31's, plus 3" of lift. Should be in the mid 20's.
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Stock 1990 4runner less the back half. 42" irocks 0-60 n/a 1/4= 2.35 min.
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What is the point of posting time slips and dyno runs and the like trying to compare the 3.0 to the 3.4? I mean really, what are you trying to prove?
...the 3.4 is faster than the 3.0?
...has more horsepower or torque?
So FRIGGIN WHAT!?!?! We already know that the 3.4 is rated higher for HP and torque.
We don't need a mundane thread to tell us that.

All this thread purpose has is for bragging rights about the 'bestest'.
It serves no real purpose for people that only have the desire to get their truck running as inexpensively and as well as it can.
But what would be funny is a blown 22re or other engine posting slips that blow a 3.4 off the road....


All I can say is that if you don't have a useful reason to post, don't post... don't even start a thread.
This thread should be moved to off-topic / drama llama.
Old 09-03-2008, 06:42 PM
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the point was, to see if it was worth paying the money for the 3.4 swap v/s doing some mods to the 3.0. im a sceptic. and i already know what the 3.4 was rated at being a master toyota tech and all.
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Originally Posted by mr toytech
the point was, to see if it was worth paying the money for the 3.4 swap v/s doing some mods to the 3.0. im a sceptic. and i already know what the 3.4 was rated at being a master toyota tech and all.
so, being the master tech, you don't have to be a skeptic... you already know.
so what's your ride, 3.0 or 3.4? if your ride is a 3.0, that might lend you some credibility.
Old 09-04-2008, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
so, being the master tech, you don't have to be a skeptic... you already know.
so what's your ride, 3.0 or 3.4? if your ride is a 3.0, that might lend you some credibility.
yes mine is a 3.0. it in my sig.
Old 09-04-2008, 05:16 PM
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and im not the only one here with these questions. there were several people on another thread and thats why i posted this one. so basically you are not only questioning my integrity but many other people on this forum.
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ok, so, imo, this is useful information, but at the same time, the stock horsepower numbers and torque ratings and other info about both motors COULD be found other places on the net... maybe abe is right and this should be moved to off topic...
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Originally Posted by mr toytech
and im not the only one here with these questions. there were several people on another thread and thats why i posted this one. so basically you are not only questioning my integrity but many other people on this forum.
Nearly every post I read on here about the 3.0 is whether to rebuild it or replace it with a new 3.0. Few ask about the technical difficulties of swapping in a 3.4. As well, there has been very little interest about the empirical performance differences... in particular 0-60 and 1/4 mile times... between the 3.0 and 3.4. It is a given that the 3.4 offers more horsepower and torque as well as implied longevity when compared to the 3.0... given a ball's out run it til it breaks mentality. It should be noted that there are people who have 200000 miles on the 3.0, thus making it more a question of care and maintenence than engineered longevity.

and in the same tone I will ask-
How many people that have done the 3.4 swap from a 3.0 (or even 22r/e) have actually spent the money and time to do a before and after dyno run comparison or even paid to get a time slip from a drag strip before and after doing the swap, like what you asked for?

I'm not questioning your integrity- maybe you spent the money to justify your swap and are proud enough to display the fruits of your labor and have print-outs to back up your claims. That is not questioning your integrity. You did it and have proof.
Rather, I question your motivation for doing so here in this forum instead of in the 'off-topic' fora where such things are more appropriate.

Let us not also forget that the 3.4 wasn't an option for the trucks this forum is intended, thus technically making any discussion about the 3.4 performance off-topic.

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Old 09-04-2008, 11:09 PM
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I timed it approximately, once. I did 0-60 in about 13.5-14 seconds. Just a nudge slower than a Prius. With slicks, I could pull better

I'm guessing my motor is putting out near stock numbers, considering it runs well, and has headers and exhaust. Maybe I'm getting 120HP to the ground. WOW!!! Isn't that amazing.
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0-60? Never. Not even downhill WOT. Stupid 22r 5.29s and 35s...
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Hmm. I guess ima have to time my 0-60. I was able to stay even with a stock 3.0 4runner at 3/4 throttle though

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Well, I took my rig to the dragstrip last night.

Specs:
262K mile 22RE
5spd
heavy 31's on 15" steelies
3" OME/1.5" BJ spacer lift
Weight: 3930 with me (170lbs), 1/4 tank of gas, and ~60lbs of tools
Track elevation: 5800 feet
Temp: 50* F
Best Time: 23.21 @ 57.3mph

It was very consistent over three runs, varying from 23.21 to 23.35, but I lost in the first round due to a crappy R/T. Not a bad bracket truck though, and I got lots of comments on it (and the NObama '08 sticker I put on).
Old 09-06-2008, 12:13 PM
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ok i found my results that where not washed in my pants.
0-60mph = 8.8 seconds
1/4mile = 14.3 seconds

125bhp@3300RPM
150ft.lb.tq@2500RPM
Old 09-06-2008, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Belize Off Road Team
ok i found my results that where not washed in my pants.
0-60mph = 8.8 seconds
1/4mile = 14.3 seconds

125bhp@3300RPM
150ft.lb.tq@2500RPM
was that with the 3.0 or the 3.4.?
Old 09-09-2008, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Belize Off Road Team
ok i found my results that where not washed in my pants.
0-60mph = 8.8 seconds
1/4mile = 14.3 seconds

125bhp@3300RPM
150ft.lb.tq@2500RPM
You guys must use a different timing system down there.....
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