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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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No wonder I had spark knock problems... LARGE PICS!! :)

Well, My head gasket blew about a week and a half ago, so I decided to tear down the engine. Got the heads off today and boy oh boy did I have an (un)pleasant suprise...








I'm sure this is not the worst that most of you have seen on a 3VZ-E, but it is certainly the worst looking block I've torn down. I haven't taken the oil pan off yet though.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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wheres the pic???
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Umm.. Did you forget to change your spark plugs for awhile?

Thats pretty nasty.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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Damn dude. This is why I own a 22re. That looks absolutely terrible. No Offense, you posted the pics so I imagine you wanted to share the horror.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Meh, Every motor has its perks.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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Plugs were changed every 6,000 miles... It burned oil pretty bad. Thats prob the reason for all the carbon buildup
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Awww. So you were pushing it to see how far it can go? LOL. I would have saw ugly looking plugs, and been like, "Time to change the head gasket, or valve seals... or... "

I noticed on here a lot of people run there stuff into the ground before maintenance. Is this pretty common of Toyota owners?
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Yep - I was pushing it... I wanted to at least replace the valve guide seals, when I pulled the plugs a few months ago, but money was an issue - cash is still an issue - but now I get to rebuild the turd
Its all cool though. I used to work for a performance shop, so I've got some connections to some machine shops in the area. I've also been considering Oregon Engine Rebuilder's "Super Stock" longblock. Considering it's going to run me about that much to have the machining done here, plus the cost of pistons/rods/rings/etc... Opinions?
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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I need opinions on Oregon Engine Rebuilders "Super Stock" 3VZE also......

I need to get a new engine and need any help on there quality.....
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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Wow that's horrible! Lookig at that makes me want to seafoam my engine right now lol
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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I definatly know that I will be running seafoam thru my new engine every or every other oil change after this horror lol
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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My goodness that is a LOT of build up....
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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i somehow dont think it was a spark knock.. ? lol

that sux tho man. sorry to hear.
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Lol - yeah it was spark knock. Advance the timing anything more than 2 degrees BTDC and it would ping it's a** off. Come to find out I read that retarding the timing causes the engine to run hotter.

So does anyone have any experience with Oregon Engines. I hear their 22RE units are pretty good, but I haven't read much about their 3VZE. I thought about just putting rebuilt heads on my bottom end, but with that chip in the piston (last pic) - I'm not so sure I want to do that anymore.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by arisythila
I noticed on here a lot of people run there stuff into the ground before maintenance. Is this pretty common of Toyota owners?
I think this is common with just about everybody. I've seen just about every common make and model of vehicle rode completely into the ground. I am good about keeping up on maintenance, but even I have ran a couple of motors clear up until catastrophic failure.

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that all of my vehicles are close to dying when I get them.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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Wow and I thought I had bad carbon buildup you might want to check your intake if your pistons were that bad god knows how caked up the intake is with carbon.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 08:00 AM
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Check with Jim at Sunwest automotive in medical lake washington.$2350 for a complete long block.Here is his email. mttareski@cheneycable.com
http://www.sunwestautomotiveengines.com/

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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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Wow and I thought I had bad carbon buildup you might want to check your intake if your pistons were that bad god knows how caked up the intake is with carbon.
Yeah - the intake is pretty bad. Everything is going to need a good hot tank before it goes back together.

I'll shoot Sunwest Automotive an email and see if I can get a full quote with shipping/cores/etc. I'm assuming that most engine remanufacturers use Toyota head gaskets?
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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He did my 22re, and will have him do 3.0 when its time.I did it without a core due to shipping.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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it's crazy to think that mess can hang onto the inside of the combustion chamber, mainly the top of the piston, when it's moving up and down around 50 times a second


that's a lot up build up man, geez, lol
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