manual locking hubs HELP!

94 yota · 12-05-2006, 10:24 PM

i recently posted a thread ( below ) and had a couple helpful responses. I have an up date on that. To test it out i drove my toyota around the hubs locked without the 4x4 on. Their was a loud rattling sound coming from the left wheel that i mentioned. BUT when i turned the 4X4 on the RATTLING SOUND STOPPED? Any info on this? ANy idea HOw much it might cost????

(((((( I recenlty purchased a 4x4 94 toytoa single cab pickup with manual locking hubs. The last time the previous owner used the 4x4 he locked the hubs and Quickly turned on the 4x4 without letting the hubs engage. I lifted the truck completly off the ground and noticed the only the right wheel spins. The left wheel doesn't spin but the part before that does. Thiers also a light clanking sound when the 4x4 is on. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE WRONG ? HOW MUCH IT MIGHT COST ? ANYTHING ???? ))))

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Elton · 12-05-2006, 10:27 PM

pull them off and check them out

CJM · 12-05-2006, 10:27 PM

Take the hubs apart and see whats up... http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/autohub/

**Tofer** · 12-05-2006, 10:29 PM

it might be a CV issue.. that would explain why only the right wheel spins... check your CVs

Elton · 12-05-2006, 10:30 PM

did you install a diff drop ?

**Tofer** · 12-05-2006, 10:31 PM

depending on the lift he might not have needed to.

tc · 12-06-2006, 06:49 AM

OK - Let me see if I get this right ('cuz it sounds just like a problem I had recently)

no sound in 2WD with the hubs unlocked
Sound in 2WD with the hubs locked
no sound in 4WD with the hubs locked

If that's true, what it was in my case was a dry spindle bushing. "Toyota MDT tech" described a tool you could build to lube them, or pull the CV and do it (that's what I ended up doing).

What kind of hubs? (AISIN - red dial, Warn - gold dial, Superwinch - blue dial)

gonzo · 12-06-2006, 07:10 AM

I second the spindle bushings

runethechamp · 12-06-2006, 09:44 AM

If the hub is broken your sound makes sense. With the hub not engagted, everything is normal. You lock the hub in 2wd and suddenly there's parts inside the hub that try to grab the cv axle, but it makes all the sounds since it's broken. In 4wd, the sound goes away because the cv axle is turning with the hub.

**Tofer** · 12-06-2006, 02:08 PM

thats what i was thinking too. but you said it better

jjrgr21 · 12-06-2006, 03:30 PM

my 98 did that, it was the hub clutch ratcheting, i rebuilt them and was fine. over greasing i heard will cause that.

12-05-2006, 10:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 10,644	pull them off and check them out __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto sister 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck

12-05-2006, 10:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
CJM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central NJ Posts: 4,561	Take the hubs apart and see whats up... http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/autohub/ __________________ 96' T100 SR5 4x4, ISR mod, Custom ABS snorkel, KC 57's Hella optilux el cheapo backup lights. Cobra 19III CB, Firestick 4ft antenna, Bilstein shocks. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

12-05-2006, 10:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,899	it might be a CV issue.. that would explain why only the right wheel spins... check your CVs __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

12-05-2006, 10:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 10,644	did you install a diff drop ? __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto sister 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck

12-05-2006, 10:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,899	depending on the lift he might not have needed to. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

12-06-2006, 06:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,368	OK - Let me see if I get this right ('cuz it sounds just like a problem I had recently) no sound in 2WD with the hubs unlocked Sound in 2WD with the hubs locked no sound in 4WD with the hubs locked If that's true, what it was in my case was a dry spindle bushing. "Toyota MDT tech" described a tool you could build to lube them, or pull the CV and do it (that's what I ended up doing). What kind of hubs? (AISIN - red dial, Warn - gold dial, Superwinch - blue dial) __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

12-06-2006, 07:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
gonzo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rochester, NH Posts: 264	I second the spindle bushings __________________ 88 Toyota pu 4x4 22re 5spd. 4:88's, 2-1/2" exhaust from cat back, 3" BL. 33x12.5 thornbirds for play, 35 conti-trac for everyday. 10K winch. Pioneer with 4" kenwoods in front, 6-1/2 MTX's in rear on a 600W amp and 12" sub on a kenwood 120W amp. 600w power inverter. 91 Toyota pu 4.3 Vortec 5spd.

12-06-2006, 09:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
runethechamp Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 586	If the hub is broken your sound makes sense. With the hub not engagted, everything is normal. You lock the hub in 2wd and suddenly there's parts inside the hub that try to grab the cv axle, but it makes all the sounds since it's broken. In 4wd, the sound goes away because the cv axle is turning with the hub. __________________ 94 4runner SR5, V6 3VZE, 5 speed Completely rebuilt engine with Toyota parts at 147k miles Downey Coils, Aisin manual hubs, Cowl Louver mod, Hella 500 fog lights Yeah, I know, not many cool mods here

12-06-2006, 02:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,899	thats what i was thinking too. but you said it better __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

12-06-2006, 03:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
jjrgr21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,520	my 98 did that, it was the hub clutch ratcheting, i rebuilt them and was fine. over greasing i heard will cause that. __________________ 2003 4WD TRD Tacoma 1986 4Runner

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