Chuki

Well I didn't use any.

Clean both surfaces real good and put it back together with a fresh new gasket.

deserttoy84

There is a block off plate on the back of the head where water and oil flow next to each other and a bad gasket would cause water in oil.

surf4runner

i like blue for water seals. copper for the rest.

that head looks like it will nice when your done (again)

ovrrdrive

I sure hope so...

You know, I had mixed results with the permatex in the engine. I had the rare luxury of taking it back apart a week after I put it together so I got to see it on the bond alone with no wear or time in the mix.

The gray worked really well on top of the head around the front of the head gasket and under and over the half moons under the valve cover.

The black seemed to work really good where it contacted oil. On the oil pan I was almost out of black so I used black on one side and gray on the other and it seemed like the black was harder to clean off than the gray was. However, both bonded like hell on the pan. I had to work it for about 10 minutes to break the seal, and when it broke it was the gray that broke.

Seems like the gray is for the top end of the motor where it is dry, and the black worked better in the bottom. I still need to try this "right stuff" I keep hearing about. That may be ever better.

Currently I am waiting for a new timing cover to come 2nd day air UPS. I decided to go ahead and order a new one and not take the chance again on using a used one. I think the used one is ok, but I am going in the engine for the third time for cutting corners and figured it was time to get a little insurance where I could.

toyotaoffroad91

toyota FIPG and be done with it

spirtlanimilbus

ive had good luck with indian copper gasket maker on the timing cover side. it helps hold the gasket on the cover so it doesnt slide around.

ovrrdrive

Based on my experience with cleaning the old (1 week old that is... ) gaskets off I went ahead and used black permatex on the cover. Wish me luck.

Everywhere I used black on the engine before I practically had to pry the parts apart. I almost couldn't seperate a few. The gray was alot easier to break than the black.

I ended up using black on the oil pan and timing cover, blue around the water pump, and I left the gray on the intake and throttle body.

All mating surfaces were polished with a wire wheel in the drill and cleaned with brake fluid.

As I said, wish me luck.

TNRabbit

Dang, you were up late! Good Luck & let us know how it works out...

spirtlanimilbus

he got it running........... i saw it actually move down the road..... its aliiiiiiiivugh!!!!

ovrrdrive

Hehe...

It's running really good too. I can't really tell if it has any more real power yet from the head, but it is just running really well.

Heck, I'm used to driving the wife's V8 4runner now so it will be a while until I can feel any power at all from my 22RE.

Great to finally have it back though...