F/R locked runners...any issues?

chimmike · 05-14-2007, 03:08 PM

What are the biggest issues you've come upon since getting locked front and rear?

Right now I'm finding with the front locker my tires are showing their weaknesses (bfg at's) but I'm thinking a rear locker can still really help.

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animalbmx · 05-14-2007, 03:12 PM

birfields

Sonofmayhem · 05-14-2007, 03:17 PM

He is ifs so in his case cvs. I hate trying to turn, but mine was welded. hydro assist will help with that.

yotasavg · 05-14-2007, 03:21 PM

i've driven trucks locked f/r and i'd have to say turning. personally i'd want both to be selectable.

why'd you lock the front first? just curious, not flaming you.

chimmike · 05-14-2007, 03:57 PM

I figured (and found) that having the front locked helped pull the rig up hills and stuff without spinning tires and losing traction/tearing up hills. The rear will help me on those tight creek crossings at camber where it can push some too.

Steering hasn't been an issue yet, really...

tc · 05-14-2007, 06:23 PM

I have ARB's f/r and have found I'm going through PS pumps at a pretty rapid clip....

The reports you hear of CV's/birfs instantaneously exploding when you order the locker are exaggerated IMHO

OSU4Runner · 05-14-2007, 06:26 PM

Turning is the only issue I've had....Takes me twice the area to turn around locked

yotasavg · 05-14-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chimmike

I figured (and found) that having the front locked helped pull the rig up hills and stuff without spinning tires and losing traction/tearing up hills. The rear will help me on those tight creek crossings at camber where it can push some too.

Steering hasn't been an issue yet, really...

good call. thanks for responding.

chimmike · 05-15-2007, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guapo83

Turning is the only issue I've had....Takes me twice the area to turn around locked

+1 initially. I've got the lock-rite up front and before it broke in it would lock in turns constantly. After it broke in (or I just abused the snot out of it) it's been working flawlessly. It's amazing what I can crawl up without breaking traction now! And the rear locker----heh.....can't wait for that puppy

snap-on · 05-15-2007, 05:23 AM

you guys talking about turning when off road?

because if you have a front (non selectable) locker and not manual hubs your just crazy. (when it comes to pavement driveing)

I love my detroit in the rear.

chimmike · 05-15-2007, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snap-on

because if you have a front (non selectable) locker and not manual hubs your just crazy.

So I'm crazy? I've been running like this for months, daily driving the rig, with zero issues.

Rcross · 05-15-2007, 10:01 AM

I'm planning on locking the both axles, with powertrax lockers, on my 88 runner, but am planning on putting in a twin stick set up on my Tcase. That way I can putt around the trails in 2wd low on the trails and pop it in 4wd when needed.

all_terrain17 · 05-15-2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guapo83

Turning is the only issue I've had....Takes me twice the area to turn around locked

You have a front e-locker?

86Original · 05-15-2007, 10:20 AM

Both locked with Aussies for almost a year now. IFS & manual hubs. The only time steering is an issue is when my hubs are locked and I'm in 4Lo on slickrock. The rest of the time it's not an issue. Detroits don't seem to be as "nice" (buck more, don't ratchet as easy??) as the Aussies. There are times I'm glad I don't have an ARB, and and other times I wish I did. A twin stick would probably take care of the times that I wish I did have ARBs.

With the T/C in 2Hi, hubs locked, there's only a little bit that I notice different from running w/o the locker. HTH...

RustBucket · 05-15-2007, 10:22 AM

If your rig has ADD then I don't think the lock-rite would cause any driveability problems when it's not in 4WD.

Being "locked" front and rear is awesome

I have non-selectables and you get used to the funny things the rear one does. Get selectables if you have the money and are picky

tc · 05-15-2007, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86Original

There are times I'm glad I don't have an ARB,

When would that be?

chimmike · 05-15-2007, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustBucket

If your rig has ADD then I don't think the lock-rite would cause any driveability problems when it's not in 4WD.

Being "locked" front and rear is awesome

I have non-selectables and you get used to the funny things the rear one does. Get selectables if you have the money and are picky

There are no issues on IFS front locked with the lock-rite, that I've experienced. I know the rear will clunk sometimes during turns and stuff like that, but that's bearable and I can handle it.

I'd go manual hubs on the IFS if I didn't have an 85 axle sittin in my garage and some nearly-new Aisin manual hubs for the 85 axle

Belize Off Road Team · 06-07-2007, 10:11 AM

i have a 91 4Runner with ADD and want to get Detroit EZ lock up front and back...can anybody give me the goods and bads of this please! and what things will happen when i install them, what will i need to replace when i install it?

tc · 06-07-2007, 02:39 PM

Start with this:
/f31/locker-faq-43572/

FredTJ · 06-07-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snap-on

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because if you have a front (non selectable) locker and not manual hubs your just crazy. (when it comes to pavement driveing)

There are NO issues with a manual locker in the front and not manual hubs (on road, 2wd driving).
Why in the world would you think that combo causes problems ?

Fred

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yotasavg Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chico Republic, NOR*CAL Posts: 1,986	i've driven trucks locked f/r and i'd have to say turning. personally i'd want both to be selectable. why'd you lock the front first? just curious, not flaming you. __________________ -Andrew 94 4Runner 3.0 Auto. OME Shocks f/r, OME 901's, Pan Hard Drop, Ball Joint Spacers, Idler Brace, S&B Intake, Warn Premium Hubs, 33/10.5 KM2's, 1.5" Wheel Spacers (x4), 5.29's

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chimmike Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SRQ, FL Posts: 1,522	I figured (and found) that having the front locked helped pull the rig up hills and stuff without spinning tires and losing traction/tearing up hills. The rear will help me on those tight creek crossings at camber where it can push some too. Steering hasn't been an issue yet, really... __________________ '03 350z Turbocharged (totalled :( ) '04 Honda Accord LX V6 (first bone stock car I've owned in a while) 94 4runner SR5 4x4, 31x10.5's, SAS, Warn M8000 winch, Allpro bumper, Summit (K&N FIPK in different wrapping) CAI, flowmaster muff, 5.29's FOR SALE! '07 Harley-Davidson XL1200c, rush slip-ons

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tc Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,875	I have ARB's f/r and have found I'm going through PS pumps at a pretty rapid clip.... The reports you hear of CV's/birfs instantaneously exploding when you order the locker are exaggerated IMHO __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

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snap-on Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Peoria IL Posts: 2,411	you guys talking about turning when off road? because if you have a front (non selectable) locker and not manual hubs your just crazy. (when it comes to pavement driveing) I love my detroit in the rear. __________________ 94 EX cab, 5speed, V6, locked, ARB bar, NWOR headers 92 4runner, auto, V6, OME suspension, Downey headers

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Rcross Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Caledonia MS Posts: 236	I'm planning on locking the both axles, with powertrax lockers, on my 88 runner, but am planning on putting in a twin stick set up on my Tcase. That way I can putt around the trails in 2wd low on the trails and pop it in 4wd when needed. __________________ Certified Jeep recovery specialist We live in the land of the free, only because of the brave. If you can't fix it with a hammer, what you have is an electrical problem. If you want to find out what happens when you don't have control of your immigration, talk to an Indian.

05-15-2007, 10:20 AM	#14 (permalink)
86Original Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Loveland, Colorado Posts: 458	Both locked with Aussies for almost a year now. IFS & manual hubs. The only time steering is an issue is when my hubs are locked and I'm in 4Lo on slickrock. The rest of the time it's not an issue. Detroits don't seem to be as "nice" (buck more, don't ratchet as easy??) as the Aussies. There are times I'm glad I don't have an ARB, and and other times I wish I did. A twin stick would probably take care of the times that I wish I did have ARBs. With the T/C in 2Hi, hubs locked, there's only a little bit that I notice different from running w/o the locker. HTH... __________________ Original owner: 86 4Runner, Some mods; Read more here.

05-15-2007, 10:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
RustBucket Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,368	If your rig has ADD then I don't think the lock-rite would cause any driveability problems when it's not in 4WD. Being "locked" front and rear is awesome I have non-selectables and you get used to the funny things the rear one does. Get selectables if you have the money and are picky __________________ Rust-Free '88 Runner. Stay-at-home truck.

06-07-2007, 10:11 AM	#18 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 2,853	i have a 91 4Runner with ADD and want to get Detroit EZ lock up front and back...can anybody give me the goods and bads of this please! and what things will happen when i install them, what will i need to replace when i install it? __________________ 2013 Nissan Juke Nismo, Turbo 4cyl, 226bhp, Nismo suspension, Nismo CVT, Injen CAI, Injen Cat Back exhaust, Nismo 18" wheel w/ low profile tires, GT-R Suede front seats, Suede interior, Sat Nav/XM Radio, Rockford Fosgate Audio, AWD-V system. SHIFT_

06-07-2007, 02:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,875	Start with this: /f31/locker-faq-43572/ __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

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